Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 03 2011,15:17)Quote I had to go back and forth with Keith and Jack and Dennison and Mark for WEEKS trying to get an HONEST answer to this question.  I got an honest answer from Kathi immediately.  And she also does not PREFER the "a god" translation, but at least was honest enough to answer, "Yes, according to these s…[Read more]

Pierre,You told Dennsion that he didn't have a righteous spirit, or something to that effect. Perhaps you could apologize to him, since I've noticed you are both getting along quite well these days.Maybe t8 would accept a public apology as atonement, and remove your "sin"? mike

Quote (Istari @ April 03 2011,13:46)Mike realised this error and, in case any one has not noticed, he is simply claiming that ANY EXISTING THING MUST HAVE SOME BOUNDING BORDER… this BOUNDING BORDER is what Mike has declared to be 'A body' and he even declares therefore that God Almighty has a body because God is IN SOME PLACES BUT NOT IN OTHERS.…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 03 2011,13:12)Here are several questions that i need you to answer. 1.  Does God have a body? Yes or No?2.  Does God have a literal right hand? Yes or no?3.  Jesus is also Human, so therefore that cant also be true?These are all off topic, so don't let the discussion linger on my answers to them, okay?1.  Yes.  Se…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 03 2011,12:43)Where does it say that Jesus was created??thats not biblical. JESUS CREATED YOU FYI! roll your dice with that one.Rev 3:14 says Jesus was created. Unfortunately for you, there is NO scripture that says Jesus created us, or anything for that matter.mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 03 2011,12:53)Stick to one scripture, because I will also use that eventually as my proof text. I have been.  I've used ONE SCRIPTURE to solidly refute your understanding of ONE SCRIPTURE.Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 03 2011,12:53)So stick to context. Does John 10 state that Jesus and the Father are one? Yes or…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 03 2011,12:11)I thought that meant KING?“Melek” is “king” in Hebrew.  This is the Hebrew word for “angel”:mal'ak 1) messenger, representative   1a) messenger   1b) angel   1c) the theophanic angelmike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 03 2011,12:08)What Angels in Heaven Mike??? does that include moses???Angel only means “Messenger” mikeD, you are going to that place now where I distance myself from the conversation?Do you ACKNOWLEDGE that “angel” means “messenger”?  I say “ACKNOWLEDGE”, because there's really nothing to agree with or to disagree…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 03 2011,12:05)Did God call me his begotten son???No.  So apparently the answer to Paul's question about which one of the angels is the begotten Son of God is not “Dennison”.    mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 03 2011,12:00)Im not talking about Jesus being a messenger, im saying he is not a Angelic holy creature/being like gaberial, Michael, Cherubs, cherubims, and etc.  And you are right, to a degree.  For those others were created BY God THROUGH the separate being of the Son of God.  The Son of God is the only angel of Go…[Read more]

Hi Wispring,You've echoed and expanded on what I've been trying to say in this thread all along.  A “body” is ANY “outer perimeter”, whether it be made up of wave lengths, particles, frequencies, or a “spiritual skin”.  I have argued contrary to the general belief that spirit is “immaterial”.  Just because humans don't yet have the technology to…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 01 2011,08:40)Mike……….You did not answer my question  about what SATAN (THE BEING) looks Like , and asking a question about a question which i  ask by the way, does not count as answering question put to you. So I will ask it again Please tell us what YOUR SATAN  (BEING) actually looks like?. IMOGene, this is th…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 03 2011,04:17)Therefore, The Hotseat, or similar, is the best way. The poser can ask a single Explicit question based on the original question and the responder MUST answer directly or concede.The answer MUST be accepted by the poser so as not to encourage long drawn out debate and turn the Hotseat into just another thread.I…[Read more]

Hi Wispring,I've listed my understanding that I'm not sure which way to look at it. Perhaps someone else has scripture or insight that will point me in the right direction.mike

Hello Istari,And welcome back.  I would be happy to expand on thisQuote (Istari @ April 03 2011,08:00)(How, if Jesus is God (even by Trinitarian claim: while in the flesh as Man) is he raised to a HIGHER position than that which he left)This is a good point and a good place to start.  It seems the Trinitarians flip-flop on this idea.  They use so…[Read more]

Quote (Sophia @ April 03 2011,07:33)Romans 1 (New King James Version)Greeting 1 Paul, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated to the gospel of God 2 which He promised before through His prophets in the Holy Scriptures, 3 concerning His Son Jesus Christ our Lord, who was born of the seed of David according to the flesh, 4…[Read more]

Quote (Wispring @ April 03 2011,08:03)Hi Gene and Paladin,   The word “body” is what is messing me up. My mind has the concept of body associated with some living thing to have a limiting parameter. A “skin” of some sort. Metaphorically without a need for a “skin” I can understand what you are saying.                                              …[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ April 03 2011,02:21)Mike, a private message should be just that, a private message. Unless you ask the person first if they don't mind you putting it on the publc forum. Did you…ask first? As another forum states in their rules….Please respect the privacy of others on the board. Do not share info you have received in private…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 02 2011,15:40)If Mike has in fact made good points that go unanswered, then the reading audience will know if someone is running and hiding. Mike should just be secure in the best he has done and leave the results with God. Instead he is trying to force people to give him attention.Jack,You give me more attention…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2011,13:47)But like I said to Mike, bring it on. We can go into their arena and fight by their rules.Oh, I didn't see that post apparently. It's on, dude. Look for the first “Final Showdown”.mike