Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 04 2011,12:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 03 2011,01:04)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 02 2011,12:32)Really, then what does the “beginning” in verse 1 and 2 of John 1:1 mean if it does not mean before time?What does “beginning” mean in Gen 1:1?  It says the earth was created, as in past tense, in the beginning.…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ April 04 2011,13:47)Quote (Lightenup @ April 05 2011,06:30)Or 'today' could be according to eternity where there is only today, just an eternal one.Gobbledygook Spoken like a man that has been solidly trained in “gobbledygook”, what with all his years as a trinni. Jack, thanks for your answer on Sheol. I disagree with…[Read more]

My point exactly.  Be able to scripturally defend what you teach.  If you can't, then you are a false teacher, and why should YOU give false teachers a platform from which to spread lies?Anyway, that's just my two cents.  I've posted the first “Final Showdown” question in the Hot Seat to Keith.  And I've posted a poll to see if others think he ans…[Read more]

Okay Gene, Scripture #1:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”Who said the quoted part to the woman?mike

Irene,

He has still NOT said “Yes” to this day. Nor has Jack or mikeangel. They have all dug their heels in and stuck with “NO!”.  So please vote Kathi.mike

Quote (Istari @ April 03 2011,19:27)I think what I said about the one explicit question that must be answered and that answer must be accepted ideally supposedly meant that only the two debaters were involved.Very well then, we're in agreement.Quote (Istari @ April 03 2011,19:27)It has become a feature that I do not support where threads get off…[Read more]

Istari,I stand corrected, for that is the title.  You have missed the beginning where D and I were taking it one scripture at a time.  But you are in your rights to address anything on topic with the title, so I apologize about that part.But I restate my wonder at why you would ask Pierre and me about points we have made ourselves.I agree with y…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ April 03 2011,19:28)ADDENDUM -(M)Quote What is your point, Paladin?  Did you not post on this thread the same words about Psalm 138:2 that you posted to me via pm?  Did I not also cut and copy my response to your pm and paste it on this thread?What you said is for me to copy your pm and my response and post them both on the t…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ April 03 2011,19:22)for………oti = subordinating conjunctionthou……..sou = genitive masculine singular personal pronounextolled….emegalunas indicative aorist active verbabove…….epi = accusative prepositionall………pan = neuter singular accusative indefinite adjectivename……..onoma accusative neuter singular noun…[Read more]

Istari,Ask ONE question about John 10 or John 17, and I'll be happy to answer it. Why would you ask me and Pierre these questions anyway, when we've brought the same points up against the “Jesus is God” people many times? mike

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 03 2011,18:46)anyways can you stop getting off topic and give me a chance to catch up on the thread.D,What's to “catch up” with?  John 10 says the Father is IN Jesus, and you take that to mean Jesus IS God the Father.  But John 17 says the Father will be IN us, and you DON'T take that to mean WE will be God the F…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 03 2011,18:40)wHat?THe bible clearly states that God glorifys Jesus, and that Jesus will in return glorify God.Pierre stop contradicting your self.What you state is not biblical.The scriputre itself states that He is THE IMAGE of the INVISIBLE GOD. Can you not read?So how is it possible that you state that the image…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 31 2011,12:58)“How can Jesus still be the High Priest if he is not a man?”For “EVERY HIGH PRIEST IS TAKEN FROM AMONG THE PEOPLE” and appointed to represent them before God, to offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins.Well, Jesus WAS taken from among men and made High Priest. He's not a man anymore, as the scr…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 31 2011,12:58)“Is there a scripture anywhere that says Jesus is no longer a man or human?”Yes, many.  But this should suffice:11 I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that the gospel I preached is not of human origin. 12 I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation…[Read more]

Hi D, This thread just got busier and more and more scriptures are being posted that shoot down your theory of Jesus being the Father.  Can you really stand against all of these scriptures, and the hundreds more that are out there, with only your literal understanding of the Father being “IN” Jesus?Shall we log this in the “Debate Log” that t8…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ April 03 2011,15:07)Quote (terraricca @ April 04 2011,02:01)Dsorry I forget;Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.PierreOh you mean the creation that Jesuschrist made himself, because he is the image of the invisible God?Ya nice try That's funny, Pierre!Dennison, read it…[Read more]

Ah, I didn't know about the apology. Well then, I suppose in time t8 will remove the tile he gave you. He alone has that power………not me. mike

What is your point, Paladin?  Did you not post on this thread the same words about Psalm 138:2 that you posted to me via pm?  Did I not also cut and copy my response to your pm and paste it on this thread?What you said is for me to copy your pm and my response and post them both on the thread.  I told you I would just wait for you to answer it on…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 03 2011,14:42)Mike, why do you want Spirits to be like Flesh?I never said they were like “flesh”.  In fact, I've repeatedly stated that Paul makes it clear flesh cannot enter heaven.I'll tell you what Istari:  I know this thread has been a thorn in your side since I started it because of a discrepancy you and I were having.  …[Read more]