Quote (Paladin @ April 10 2011,07:56)No he didn't Mike, he asked for clarification of something not previously covered. He did not ask about any “error.”Gene asked for clarification on something he noticed was an error in your theory. He might not have said the word “error”, but it is an error in your theory nonetheless. And Gene wasn't the only…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ April 10 2011,07:32)(Mike)Quote Gal 2:21I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”Was this abstract “activity of Christ” brutally tortured, ridiculed, and KILLED?  You can't claim Paul is speaking of “an activity” when he finishes his thoughts about Ch…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ April 09 2011,21:28)Yeh, Mike!  A lot of good it did though. But thanks for the compliment….. I find it amazing that one can believe Rev. 19 to be Jesus, but when John 1:1 says that The Word became flesh it isn't Jesus.I feel your pain, Irene!  And this Word in 1:1 not only became flesh, but dwelled among mankind, and had the g…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 10 2011,04:57)Mike Your point is mute. Do you not see your climbing down step by step on every issue.Each step you step back on you create another frivolous point to discuss.How so?  Please show an example.Quote (Istari @ April 10 2011,04:57)You are misreading whatever you THINK you are reading because there is no issue with…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 09 2011,14:38)Mike,I think you really need to take a rest… Seriously!Those who do not believe in his name are already condemned … Mike, please…'Those who do not believe that that they stand a chance to win the race – are already condemned to lose it' Even before they run the race they have lost it…Istari,Do you…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 09 2011,12:14)Mike………My post to Paladin was sincere and was not meant for you or anyone else to Use as a Personal put down by ridiculing himBut it was you, Gene, who pointed out this particular error in his theory.  I had noticed it among the other errors, but did not approach the subject in my last post.  I c…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 09 2011,15:31)I am convinced that the can be more than one person or thing called The Word of God as after all my bible is The Word of God and yet it is not Jesus.And what is your reason for thinking the Word who became flesh, dwelled among us, and had the glory of an only begotten Son from the Father is not the same Jesus…[Read more]

The thread is not “over” Gene.Others might want to still discuss this at some later time. I don't know why Istari said to “close” the thread, since it's not a debate, but an open thread.

I'm not about to get sucked back into this thread. I only commented to say something positive to you. I will think twice before doing that again.

Hi Dennison,Deuteronomy 10:17For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.Psalm 82:1A psalm of Asaph. God stands in the assembly of El; in the midst of the gods he renders judgment. Psalm 136:2Give thanks to the God of gods. His love endures forever.Daniel…[Read more]

John 3:31 NIVThe one who comes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth. The one who comes from heaven is above all.

Quote (kerwin @ April 08 2011,23:04)What is states is currently occuring is that God has “spoken to us by his Son”.  That clearly means the Son did not speak previously to the time this verse calls “at the end of these days”.Hi Kerwin,That is a brilliant point, and contradicts many thoughts about Jesus being the angel of Jehovah who went before…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ April 08 2011,22:52)Mike,I agree, but that is not what you asked: (What if Paul had said, “Welcomed me as if I were an angel of God, as if I were Gabriel himself.”?  Now would that mean that Gabriel is of “higher status” than “an angel of God”?) If Paul had said that then he would have been saying Gabriel was of a higher…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 09 2011,08:18)To All………..Again,  Spirits do not have bodies they are what is in bodies. Just that simple. “If the spirit of him that raised Jesus (the CHRISTOS) from the dead dwell in you IT shall also quicken (bring to life), you mortal or (dead) bodies”.peace and love top you…[Read more]

Hi Paladin,Thank you. And I vote for the latter suggestion. mike

Quote (Lightenup @ April 09 2011,08:38)Mike,What about the:Will 'of' GodWisdom 'of' GodWord 'of' GodPower 'of' GodAre we supposed to worship the God without wisdomorthe God without a willorthe God without wordsor the God without power?Hi Kathi,Did you miss my point on purpose, or accidentally?  God is NOT, nor are we to worship:The power OF…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 09 2011,05:51)And, Mike, I see no issue over 'Believed' (Past tense).Hi Istari,Don't go getting too excited about 3:16.  I said “for now”, which means I'm putting that one to the back burner in order to move on to others.    Don't you think for one minute that I actually agree that Jesus was telling Nicodemus in the pr…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ April 09 2011,10:04)Mostly – It helps if you remember, as Mike pointed out, Xristos is the Greek equivalent for the Hebrew Messiah. And both words simply mean The anointed of God.Kings and prioests of the old testament were given the reference ho xristos in the same form of the same word as Jesus. He was not the first,nor the only…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ April 09 2011,09:29)Quote (Wispring @ April 10 2011,02:15)Hi Everyone,    I would like to propose we make an agreement here in order to avoid mis-communications and mis-understandings. Firstly, we only use grammatical quotes (i.e. ” “) when actually quoting something. Whether that be scripture, one another, or some text-based s…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 09 2011,09:00)Paladin………..Brother i follow everything you have said , but on point i may not be clear on. To me it is not Jesus the person that lives in us , but the Christos or Christ,Yes Gene,It is confusing how Paladin calls Christ an “activity”, but then supports his theory using scriptures that say “JESUS…[Read more]