Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 21 2011,09:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 20 2011,21:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 20 2011,13:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 19 2011,22:16)  In 1 Corinthians 8:6, who exactly does Paul refer to using the words “one god”?  He lists that one by name/title.  Who is it Keith?mikeThe answer is the Father.Very good Ke…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 19 2011,23:01)All the host of heaven is created in the image of God.You may be right, but what scripture tells you this?I only know of mankind and Jesus who are made in the image of God. I assume angels are too, but there is no scripture to that effect.Nor is there any mention of angels playing a part in the creation of…[Read more]

Hi Keith,I don't see how one thing would prohibit the other.mike

Quote (kerwin @ April 20 2011,03:38)It is my belief that both you and I agree that interpretation is in error as it is not meant literally but rather is speaking of God’s plan for humankind. Hi Kerwin,I believe it's only a matter of translation:  Rev 13:8 (Read the NET translation and their note #2)Quote (kerwin @ April 20 2011,03:38) I am not su…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 20 2011,13:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 19 2011,22:16)  In 1 Corinthians 8:6, who exactly does Paul refer to using the words “one god”?  He lists that one by name/title.  Who is it Keith?mikeThe answer is the Father.Very good Keith.Do you believe Jesus to be “the Father”?Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 20 20…[Read more]

Quote (csaliba @ April 20 2011,00:33)Jesus came to reveal the real God since in the old testament there are many gods.Hi Charles,There are many gods in both the OT and the NT. But your own words that one person came to reveal another seems to indicate that the one person couldn't possibly BE the other he came to reveal.peace,mike

Quote (Istari @ April 20 2011,04:08)Mike,Now you are beginning to understand.'…isms' are only things that people do so often it becomes them.It's you that create them yourself so how do you complain.Hi Istari,I suggested that if your intentions are to “put me in my place”, you would do better to prove my understandings to be scripturally flawed…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 20 2011,12:15)A Species? I don't know, but there is a class of being called Angels which are not men, but are ministers to the heirs of salvation.I agree.  What qualities does this “class of being” possess?  Well, they are spirit beings, right?  So is Jesus.  They are messengers of God, right?  So is Jesus.I agre…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 19 2011,23:48)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 19 2011,20:22)Quote (Lightenup @ April 19 2011,08:13)Istari,The default definition of 'firstborn' is the first offspring to come from the parent.  All other instances that are not according to the default are rare.And made very clear by the context that they AREN'T the default…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 19 2011,23:45)]Mike,You have a view that you see Him created in two verses but you know that they are ambiguious.  You also know that the early church father's don't agree with your view.I don't consider the very straightforward words, “He is the firstborn of all creation” to be “ambiguous”.    I know that many people wi…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 19 2011,22:57)The Son was begotten, all else was created from new non-eternal substance.Hi Kathi,Can you list any “substance”, that at the atomic or smaller levels, ceases to exist……….ever?In other words, do the very atoms that humans consist of cease to be a part of existence when the human dies?mike

Quote (Lightenup @ April 19 2011,23:21)Mike,Now you are getting desperate. The Spirit is within the Father and worshiped as vital part of the Father. All other things you listed are not living beings…clouds, books…good grief Mike. Kathi, you are the one who said, “…one without the other would not save me”. So I was making a facetious p…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 18 2011,22:39)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 19 2011,09:48)Quote (kerwin @ April 17 2011,23:55)God creates through the Spirit of Christ.Close Kerwin.Actually God created through the spirit BEING Christ.  You were only one word off.  Mike Boll,Genesis 1:2 states that that the Spirit of God hovered over the waters.  The Spirit of Go…[Read more]

Hey guys, Another point that Kathi brought up a long time ago, is that angels are said to “come to” and “leave from” places in scripture. If they “come to” a place, then that means they weren't already there before. And if there is ever a place where something IS at the same time there are places where it ISN'T, then there is something…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 19 2011,15:03)The Bible is a Monotheistic book inspired by GodKeith, Although I've posted the definition of “polytheism” many times for you, you still don't accept what it really means.”Polytheism” refers to WORSHIPPING more than one god.  The BELIEF that there are more than one god is COMPLETELY scriptural, for…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 19 2011,14:48)But now let me ask you the same question and see how your own words answer it. This again is your question…What I want to know is, out of the “many gods” Paul mentions in verse 5, which god in particular does he say is OUR “one God” in verse 6?According to the words “OUR One God” you yourself can’t…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ April 18 2011,22:58)they are trying to convince Georg that God is done with Israel.Hi Irene,I think they should read Romans 11 if they think that.  Quote (Baker @ April 18 2011,22:58)what I like that they never ever get angry….even though they disagree….. I wish some members here would be like that too….I'll include myself…[Read more]

(Just a reminder to myself to discuss polytheism, 1:18, and the other point the NET scholars mentioned if and when Keith answers my question.)

From the Freak Greek thread, page 56, 1st post:Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 19 2011,13:04)According to this Mike, if you look at the “grammatical” use of “theos” by John in every place outside of John 1:1 and John 1:18 where the singular form of the word is used it is always referring to the “One True God”. That means that 250 times out of 252…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 19 2011,13:04)According to this Mike, if you look at the “grammatical” use of “theos” by John in every place outside of John 1:1 and John 1:18 where the singular form of the word is used it is always referring to the “One True God”. That means that 250 times out of 252 times John uses the word in the singular for…[Read more]