Quote (942767 @ May 08 2011,20:03)Quote Galatians  4:4But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the lawThis verse states that God sent forth “His Son, made of a woman, made under the law”,Hi Marty,I agree with this.  No one here has ever claimed that Jesus did not come forth from Mary a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 09 2011,17:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 10 2011,16:58)Quote (terraricca @ May 08 2011,20:36)Moses recieve some powers from God for the purpose to convince others.Hi Pierre,I'll go even farther……………Exodus 4:21 NASBThe LORD said to Moses, “When you go back to Egypt see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders…[Read more]

No they don't Keith – for if they did, then it would mean that Jesus is not a god at all, for he is not the one HE HIMSELF calls “the only true God”.  In fact, he very clearly lists himself as someone OTHER THAN that One in his prayer TO “the only true God”.You can't just say to yourself, “Well, it clearly doesn't list Jesus as our 'one God', so…[Read more]

Hi Kathi,Why do you keep asking more and more questions when you haven't been able to answer my first one yet?  Here it is again – from my first post on this thread:Anyone from the history of creation who has ever been brought forth has also been subject to a time when they did not exist…………..hence, the bringing forth part.  Also c…[Read more]

Thanks Kar.I would say that, according to the actual scriptures, the Hebrews were more like henotheists or monolatrists. For they surely didn't believe in the literal existence of only one god, period. The phrase “God OF gods” is proof of this.mike

Quote (terraricca @ May 08 2011,20:36)Moses recieve some powers from God for the purpose to convince others.Hi Pierre,I'll go even farther……………Exodus 4:21 NASBThe LORD said to Moses, “When you go back to Egypt see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders which I have put in your power………Hmmm………so Moses was made “God”…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ May 09 2011,13:46)Gene,The quote is not 'God made his Angel's Spirits'.It is 'God made his Angels Spirits' I don't think there is anyone else who has ever misinterprets that verse to say what you say it says.You have to go to great lengths to get it to mean what you say it means.Can you find any support for your version?I was…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 06 2011,13:26)The Greek word for “express image” is 'charaktēr' and means;b) the exact expression (the image) of any person or thing, marked likeness, precise reproduction in every respect, i.e facsimileKeith,The original and most used meaning of “charaktēr” is the indent left when metal was stamped by an engraving…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 05 2011,10:55)Since Jesus is the image of God that we are becoming like and there is only “One Image” that is Gods then Jesus is God.Hi Keith,Since we are made in God's image, and there is only “One Image” that is Gods, then we are God – according to your reasoning. Is it possible that God made Jesus in His image…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 04 2011,19:34)Quote (princess @ May 05 2011,19:14)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 05 2011,01:21)What is the image of God we were made into Mike?Spirit. Too adult ?Kathitry this,the image= the faculty of thinking,to make decisions,to enjoy the environment and distinctly measure the beauty of things,to be able to part take…[Read more]

I agree Pierre,Christ would have been the “only-born son” of God. He is the “firstborn” only because God already knew he would eventually have brothers.mike

Quote (942767 @ May 08 2011,17:30)Perhaps the following scriptures will help us to understand what is meant by the word “firstborn” in the above posted scriptures: Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Love in Christ,MartyHi Marty,While…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ May 08 2011,14:14)Moses, was a Mighty leader to the Israelites, even as a God to them!David, was a Mighty King to the Israelites, even as a God to them!Satan, is a Mighty Spirit, even as a God to his believers!So were these you mentioned, along with Jesus himself, “false gods” just because they are not the “only true god”? In…[Read more]

Thanks Irene.

But Gene, are not all angels ministering SPIRITS?mike

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 07 2011,10:03)Quote (shimmer @ May 06 2011,04:00)The Jewish Scriptures are clear on this point: God is the sole Savior of Israel. The LORD says, “I am the LORD, your God, the Holy One of Israel, your Savior” (Is. 43:3); “apart from Me there is no savior” (Is. 43:11; cf. 45:15, 21; 49:26; 60:16; 63:8). Nevertheless, Moses,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 04 2011,09:29)Anything that was before the begining had no beginning, that is Johns point!Then the earth itself has no beginning Keith.  Because, according to Gen 1:1, the earth was created (past tense) in the beginning.When Jesus says certain disciples had been with him “since the beginning”, then that means they…[Read more]

Sure they do. Keith, the Son OF God is not the God he is the Son OF. Period.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 07 2011,14:20)Hi MikeAnswer my question because it seems like you want me to deny the Father and Jesus is the one god and one lord in that scripture.Do you see one “god” in 1 Cor 8:6 or two?You are not honest enough to answer this are you? Because if “YOU” answer it then you have a contradiction to the answer you want…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 07 2011,14:28)Hi MikeIf the scripture says Jesus is our “one lord” then that means to us there is no other lord’s period.And is that what it means, Keith? Does it mean that there have never been any other lords, period?