D, you didn't answer my question about Beelzebub. Do you believe Jesus that he is the Prince of the Demons and the Ruler of them? Do you believe him to be the one called "Satan"?

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 22 2011,16:14)No, King David nor samuel nor Elijah were false lords nor idols but nevertheless the only "authority" or title that was given to them came from the One True Lord (who is the only one). YES!  Let's call that "One True Lord"………….say……………"The Lord OF lords", shall we?    Now, who is the On…[Read more]

What are you talking about Kathi? Everyone here loves me!

Quote (shimmer @ May 22 2011,23:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 23 2011,15:22)Oh, and Shimmer,I don't believe you answered this question for me:Shimmer, do YOU believe it was a human being who was able to detain an angel sent from God for 21 days?  Because this is the claim Istari is making.  Do you agree with him?I haven't even looked into that. I…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ May 23 2011,01:56)Wow Mike, you have completely lost it.Really?  Let's just see who's “lost it”, shall we?Quote (Istari @ May 23 2011,01:56)You twist the point of Daniel and the Angel.The Angel was detained from delivering a prophecy to Daniel.How was he detained – he was detained by a previous assignment.Could you show me the…[Read more]

Ooooh, t8, if I send you a twenty, can you put me in a “Most Popular” category that shows up by my avatar? D, I hear what you're saying, but t8 already has the “thumbs up” icon we can use for the same purpose, right?I'm not on facebook, so maybe I'm missing something?

Quote (Paladin @ May 22 2011,16:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 21 2011,14:53)This is a new question I've never asked before Paladin.  I've seen where you belittled Irene for not knowing the meaning of “whether”. That is a direct lie Mike. Do not assign such nonsense to me. I never “belittle” anyone for not knowing a thing. Just because I question…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ May 22 2011,16:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 21 2011,14:53)Paladin, is Peter EXCLUDING all other authorities EXCEPT FOR kings and governors by his use of the word “whether”?  YES or NO?Yes! since it is the king who appoints the governors, how can there possibly be any other options? Peter himself excludes all others when he says “…[Read more]

Oh, and Shimmer,I don't believe you answered this question for me:Shimmer, do YOU believe it was a human being who was able to detain an angel sent from God for 21 days? Because this is the claim Istari is making. Do you agree with him?

Quote (shimmer @ May 22 2011,14:25)Mike, this all started when you were led to believe that God procreates and that God has a body like us, didn't it? Did you believe that at all Mike before coming to this forum? Do you still believe it or was that just a phrase?Shimmer,”Procreate” means “bring forth offspring”.  Do you deny that God has brought…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ May 22 2011,15:50)I never said a thing. If you are going to accuse me of this then please go back and find it and prove it. Thanks.Hi Shimmer,Do you deny we've had this very same discussion at least three times now?  Am I the only one who has pointed this out to you?I shouldn't have brought you into what Gene said today, and I'm…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ May 22 2011,14:36)Mike, God is spirit and those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.Shimmer, Jesus is spirit and Jesus has a body. Let the scriptures teach you.

Quote (Istari @ May 22 2011,14:24)What Mike is REALLY trying to say is 'How can a Spirit be detained if it is always everywhere all the time'Well, how can it Istari?    See Shimmer?  He tells you to ignore me because he knows he is on the losing end of this one.  Shimmer, do YOU believe it was a human being who was able to detain an angel sent fro…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ May 22 2011,13:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 23 2011,03:18)It is truly amazing how you and Shimmer are able to laugh and say “Good post Istari” to the pages of insults he's dished out to me and SF and Pierre.  But let one of us finally get to the point where we've had enough and retaliate, and here come the scoldings from you two.…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ May 22 2011,13:38)You posted a Scripture verse that says 'Face of God' and want to make a big deal about it when you can easily check what it meansReally? Check with who? How about I check with you, Istari? Do tell, what DOES that scripture mean?

Quote (Istari @ May 22 2011,13:26)Balaam – Did the Angel not first try to pursuade Balaam to turn back – only when Balaam resisted (unknowingly it seems) did the Angel materialise a sword (Display his Power) that brought the message directly to Balaam… (Perhaps this shows that the Angel did not realise that Balaam could not the donkey's actions…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 22 2011,13:35)Only if you don't believe that the only begotten Son WASN'T a literal Son.  I thought you said that you believe in a literal son of God, Mike.Kathi, I am a literal son of my father.  My human nature began when I was brought forth as a human being – AND NOT BEFORE THAT.  Likewise, Jesus' nature began when he wa…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 22 2011,13:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2011,13:38)Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 21 2011,22:43)Excellent post Kathi. T8 holds the Morman belief that believers become divine in the next life. I've already explained to him that you do not become that which you partake in. I.e. if you partake in a meal, that does not make you…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 22 2011,12:51)Mike,I told you that I didn't say that the Spirit was 'begotten.'  Why would you ask me then to show you where it says that the Spirit was yalad?If  you are not saying that the Spirit was “brought forth” with the same meaning that Jesus was “brought forth”, then don't compare the two.  Your point was, “Well, th…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 21 2011,22:43)Excellent post Kathi. T8 holds the Morman belief that believers become divine in the next life. I've already explained to him that you do not become that which you partake in. I.e. if you partake in a meal, that does not make you one!Hebrews 2:14 speaks of Jesus “partaking in” human nature. Did not Jesus…[Read more]