Quote (Istari @ June 18 2011,18:45)Now Mike is even saying that 'Flesh and blood/Bone' does not make a body – can anyone believe this guy?Do you now have to tell at least one lie in every post, Istari? WHEN did I EVER say what you claimed above? It is little wonder that many of us here cannot believe YOU anymore.

Hi Paladin,What claim to fame does the KJV have?  They have themselves made many changes from the old version to the new, right?Yet many people seem to think it is the “infallibly perfect” translation, and “written in stone”.  Could you tell me why?mike

Quote (Istari @ June 18 2011,18:05)And Mike, is it not the MAJORITY who are destined for Pergatory?What is “pergatory”?  Like most of your teachings, “pergatory” is an unscriptural, man-made idea.Quote (Istari @ June 18 2011,18:05)You realise that you have no where to go to so you are weaselling out.On the contrary, it is YOU who has “weaseled…[Read more]

Wrote what? You lost me.

I don't know about that, Pierre; but I do know that if one searches hard enough, they will always be able to find others who agree with any idea they might have – no matter how cockamamie it is.However, Kathi doesn't need to look too hard, for there seems to be a never-ending supply of people who are willing to elevate the Son of God to “God…[Read more]

Quote (david @ June 18 2011,14:16)1. Later, in the same verse, we are told it is “him.”2. John clearly understood it to be “him.”3. Other manuscripts translate it as “him.”Good post David.

I'll be glad to Istari.  Immediately AFTER you show me the scripture that says Jesus, or ANYONE ever “created a body” to appear on earth, or “shed a body” upon leaving it.  The ball's in YOUR court, jester.  

Quote (Istari @ June 18 2011,14:49)Oh Mike, how you LOVE to claim that others are abusing you – usually when you cannot refute what they say – it's your 'joie de vive' to think that you are being abused – you love being abused so you do things so others will get frustrated and abuse you – how sad you are – man of poor intellect – poor Spirit…man…[Read more]

Hi Theo,I think what the scriptures teach.  Therefore I think that for us, there is but ONE God, the Father, not “one Godhead, the Father, Son and Spirit”.  I think that our ONE God begot a Son named Jesus as the firstborn of every creature, who is NOT the God he is the Son of.  I think the Holy Spirit is OF God, and not God Himself.God has no eq…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ June 18 2011,13:28)It matters not whether 1 or 144 agree with me – or you.The poll is about OPINION.In fact it is pointless as there are more people voting than ever took part in the discussion – ever posted a Scriotural view.It shows that as of yet, YOU stand alone on this forum with your imagination.Are we ALL idiots, Istari? Or…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ June 18 2011,13:24)Mike,Show me the Scripture verse where you say that Jesus' body was TRANSFORMED just before (or as£ he ascended into Heaven.Show ME the scripture that says anyone ever “SHED” a body.And then address the actual WORDS OF MY POST or don't bother addressing me at all! Answer to the FACT that scriptures DO speak of…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 17 2011,08:40)look at all the rest of ther beliefs and compare them.1..Jesus preexisted his berth.                                                              1. Jesus preexisted his berth2. Jesus existed before all creation                                                         2. Jesus existed before all creation3…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 17 2011,07:08)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 17 2011,14:21)Quote (942767 @ June 15 2011,19:11)“He had it from the beginning”.Your doctrine is confusing, Marty.  First, you have to imagine that the words “I HAD” refer to something somebody “WILL HAVE” in the future.Then you say “HE had it from the beginning”, when you don't even…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 16 2011,07:58)The scriptures teach us that God is the source of all things and we know that would not include himself!That helps! He is, after all, the SOURCE of all things, right?Thanks.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 17 2011,10:51)This is another one of those thorns in the crawl of the anti-Jesus is God crowd.Yes Keith,The fact that you claim mere mortal men could KILL Jehovah, the Maker of the heavens and the earth and everything in them IS a “thorn in my crawl”. (Btw, I think the saying is “thorn in my craw”.)

Quote (Ed J @ June 17 2011,16:00)Hi Everyone,How many would consider “Google translations” to be biased?Hi Ed,Show everyone how accurate Google is in their translation of Psalm 2:7. And what is “and Convert to gamble on older” suppose to mean?

Quote (Istari @ June 18 2011,12:46)Spirit does not have flesh and bone…Jesus had flesh and bone…Flesh and bone cannot enter Heaven…Jesus is in Heaven…Heaven is the realm of Spirits…Jesus is a Spirit…Jesus does not have flesh and bone in heaven…How does Jesus have a Flesh and Bone body on Earth – but is a Spirit in Heaven?There is a…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ June 18 2011,12:32)Yes, Mike, Jesus Christ – are you calling Jesus a Liar?'See, I am not a Spirit, for a Spirit does not have flesh and bone (a body) as I have'.Hmmm…………..I don't recall seeing the word “body” in that scripture.  Istari, I've been telling you for months that your belief that “body” EQUALS “flesh” is what is…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2011,21:34)MikeImmanuel can be said in all those verses;;Hi Pierre,You are correct that the same thought of God being with us is there in all of those scriptures, but they don't have the Hebrew words that literally make the word “Immanuel”, like Isaiah 8:8, 8:10, and 9:6 do. But good point that God is many times said…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2011,23:42)Lets Reverse: IF You agree that Jesus is “Emmanuel” as prophecied. Than why is He called “Emmunuel” if the reference is NOT his actual name?You answered your own question earlier in your own post:Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 17 2011,23:42)“Jesus” name actually means salvation.   And He IS salvation.   H…[Read more]