Quote (Istari @ June 19 2011,14:12)Mike,You seem to have grown strangely bold in you posts of late.I was right, Kerwin!I have use retaliatory harsh words and insults, and I have made an impression! I feel like one of those nature dudes who go to live with the gorillas and so have to abide by the rules of gorilla behavior to be accepted.I'm making…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ June 19 2011,15:46)But now I know you are just in desparate plights and this is how you try to fight your way out. Did you read that long post ever so slowly, Istari? I truly was hesitant to pile so much on you when you are already so far behind. Was Paul a “spiritual being” before he died, Istari? How about Jesus? And the…[Read more]

See Kerwin?I was actually making the above post while Istari was posting the previous one. As I was warning you, it was already beginning!

Quote (kerwin @ June 19 2011,15:03)That sounds like the actions of a student seeking knowledge.  He has formed a paradigm which he modifies as he learns more.  If he finds something that is revolutionary then he will develop a new paradigm.Kerwin,I was previously shown a SERIOUS error in my understanding by Kar, and so immediately adjusted my u…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 19 2011,14:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 20 2011,13:37)Who wants to bet that Istari STILL won't answer the points I've reposted for him?My bet is that his next post will be more of the same, uneducated fluff and insults that he is known for – and won't have one single thing in it that actually addresses my points.Any…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ June 19 2011,13:55)Mike,Although for several pages now I have requested a response to you claim that Jesus' body was transformed just before he entered heaven you could not, nay , DARE NOT, respond.And for several pages, I've been answering your point while you run away like a scared little girl from my points.  So not only are…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 19 2011,11:39)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 20 2011,03:45)Hi Pierre,That doesn't just go for Mary, the cross, and the Saints, etc, but for Jesus himself.  God said that no one has seen His form, so don't worship ANYTHING with a form, whether it be celestial bodies or the form of a human.peace,mikeHi Mike,Do you know where that can…[Read more]

Who wants to bet that Istari STILL won't answer the points I've reposted for him?My bet is that his next post will be more of the same, uneducated fluff and insults that he is known for – and won't have one single thing in it that actually addresses my points.Any takers?

Here's a better one, Kerwin:Matthew 8:16When evening came, many who were demon-possessed were brought to him, and he drove out the spirits with a word and healed all the sick.The “demons” they were possessed by WERE the “spirits” Jesus drove out of them.

Quote (kerwin @ June 19 2011,12:56)It is plausible that the demon spoke to Jesus through the unholy spirit the man was carried along byNo, it's not plausible, Kerwin.If it was, then Jesus would have thrown out both the demon, AND the unclean spirit.  The demon WAS the unclean spirit, Kerwin.Here's the rest of that Luke scripture I quoted:26 Then…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 19 2011,12:47)Why you are at it you might want to explain what you men by “body” as I believe you two are using two different definitions.Istari has known MY definition of “body” since the beginning of this thread.  And Pierre and I have posted that definition over and over throughout this thread.  A body is any membrane or b…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ June 19 2011,12:44)Mike,Is it not easier just to POST THE QUESTIONS AGAIN rather than carry on with your farcical nonsense.I will refuse to answer you until you do post them again…Here's the whole post for you, child.  Next time, address the points AS they're posted so I don't have to use my time babying you like this,…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 19 2011,07:37)Ed j……….Paladin is correct in his post above it only takes 1 or 2.54 as he said to totally change the meaning of scriptures, i believe his point and example was quite accurate brother.peace and love to you and yours………………………………………..geneGene,How many percentage points…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 19 2011,12:34)MikeQuote Kerwin,Mike KNOWS HE IS WRONG…we all know that, Istari his wrong ,don't wePierreYes we do, Pierre. But he is a hard-headed one.

Quote (Istari @ June 19 2011,12:28)And what has 'Spirits in arid places' got to do with having a body?See Kerwin? I have to take it slow with Istari, or he gets confused.Istari, I will explain (AGAIN!) about the “arid places” for you AFTER you address the other three points. I have given you the page and post number, so you have no excuse.Answer…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 19 2011,12:22)An evil spirit has an evil disposition.There, you have summed it up with your OWN words, Kerwin.An evil “WHAT?” has an evil disposition?The spirit is the actual spirit being who talked back to Jesus saying, “What have we to do with you, Son of Man?” The spirit is the actual being that Jesus ordered out of those…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ June 19 2011,12:12)Kerwin,Mike KNOWS HE IS WRONG…See, you reported my question to him but he only responded to your first post.Wonder why?What Kerwin did was support me by saying that although there isn't a specific scripture that says the body of Jesus was transformed, we can gleen that understanding from what IS said in the…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ June 19 2011,11:57)What use is a body to a Spirit except to occupy one in the physical world?And this is your WHOLE argument, Istari.  Because YOU don't personally see a reason for a spirit to have a body, you have decided that they don't.  That is NOT how things are done for those who want to let the scriptures teach them.How a…[Read more]

Kerwin,I was going to bring up the “arid places” point to Istari a while ago, but he has a hard enough time when I take it slow with him.  I don't want to overload his brain.But since it has been brought up, consider that even on earth, these SPIRITS are invisible, yet they COME and GO, TO and FROM arid places and people's bodies.  They cannot c…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 19 2011,11:40)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 19 2011,22:50)Hi Kerwin,Luke was written in Greek, not Hebrew.  And the word Luke and Jesus both used was “pneuma”, which means “spirit”.  (Luke 24:37, 39)Mike,You need to read the other accounts in scripture as of at least one definition of “pneuma” is a synonym of “phantasma'.  The on…[Read more]