Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 21 2011,16:09)I have over and over again stated there is “only one true theos/god” and that all other theos/gods like Paul said are so-called theos/gods by men.Thanks Keith for this one:We know that an idol is nothing at all in the world and that there is no God but one. 5 For even if there are those called gods,…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ June 21 2011,15:57)t8 I am sure surprised that you believe in the trinity.Hi Irene,You have mistaken something t8 said, for he clearly does NOT believe in the trinity, and tirelessly and brilliantly shows how comically flawed that doctrine is.Perhaps your new meds are messin' with your head? I pray you are getting stronger and…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 21 2011,07:10)Mike…………..Kind of like you and your root and offspring of David thing right,  So i would not be so hard on the trinitarians when you preexistence are doing the same thing right?.peace and love……………………………geneThank you Gene for this one:Revelation 22:16“I, Jesus, have sent my an…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 20 2011,23:48)Mike you open yourself up on that claim as Jesus states he sent his disciples into the world as he was sent into the world.Hi Kerwin,How many of Jesus' disciples said “I came DOWN from heaven”?  Stick with the Bizzaro reasoning I actually posted, and if you can, refute MY understanding of those scriptural words.…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 21 2011,13:06)Quote (terraricca @ June 22 2011,05:50)edjQuote Hi Mike,It looked to me like Pierre's last post to me seemed to stall; but I welcome more questions. you missed, page 316if number 2 is right then #3 must be also right4)my point is when you are created you are ,there right ,and now because you are there you have…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ June 21 2011,02:28)And who will vilify me?Have I not said, 'Mikeboll, come into the penfold of truth and we will welcome you with open arms and much joy'You haven't said anything “welcoming” to me in over a year, viper.But your own words “vilify” you every time you post your nonsense. It seems I've asked yet another question you…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ June 21 2011,02:28)Why would there be a need for a BODY in heaven when the a body is restricting…And again, we see clearly Istari's WHOLE reason for believing how he does – despite what the scriptures say. He cannot imagine IN HIS OWN MIND why there is a need for bodies in heaven, and therefore there aren't.

Quote (Istari @ June 21 2011,01:48)yet SCRIPTURES tells us absolutely that the body is TRANSFORMED upon being RAISED FROM THE DEAD – not 40 days later…Mike, this is reporter Istari for HN-News Live: what do you say about that?I say show me that scripture. And explain that in light of the fact that not all will sleep in death, but all will be CHANGED.

Quote (Ed J @ June 21 2011,00:27)Hi Mike,Would it be fair to say that you do not believe our resurrected bodies will be the same as (as in similar) the one Jesus hadNot unless the person raised is one of the meek who will inherit the earth, and not live in heaven.There would have been no reason to raised Paul from the dead in a flesh body if his…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 21 2011,00:12)How would you consider Jesus resurrected body to be constraining?What would make you think that the Angels (according to Mike) are free to be “everywhere all the time”?Your last point is moot, unless of course you answer my two questions.God bless  Ed JHi Ed,It is Istari's claim that angels are “everywhere all…[Read more]

Quote (csaliba @ June 20 2011,23:39)Jesus has a unique spiritual body which can be materialize any time as He wishes,Hi Charles,How do you know this?Quote (csaliba @ June 20 2011,23:39)He also prevented Magdalene to touch him because He was only an hour from resurrection, and had to go to His Father with that particular glorious body, but…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 20 2011,23:32)A few points:1) I do not see the implied “all” you read into that sentence.2) The scripture you refer to does not say “enter” it states “inherit”3) Another scripture makes it clear Paul does not know if a man while yet in his natural body entered heaven in that body or not. Since God declares it could happe…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 20 2011,23:32)“The” dwell in” is where you seem to have the trouble with understanding my point as both the evil spirit dwell and the demon dwell in the victim though the later dwells through former.    The demon departs or is driven out when the victim is freed from the evil spirit (character attribute).Hi Kerwin,Read the las…[Read more]

It matters not who said it or what their religious beliefs were. The fact of the matter is that the statement itself cannot POSSIBLY be refuted because it is pure simple FACT.He who makes is one while he through whom the thing is made is another. Are you ready to discuss how Acts 4 also clearly teaches that Jesus is NOT our Creator?

Quote (terraricca @ June 20 2011,21:53)Mike2Co 10:12 We do not dare to classify or compare ourselves with some who commend themselves. When they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves with themselves, they are not wisethis i think SF is very similar to it,PierreAll I know is that he has the choice to either believe Jesus and God…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 20 2011,21:14)BTW, Jacob Saw God and stated many times that God appeared to Him.   Moses was Face to face with the Lord in the tabernacle no?No D.  Moses speaking to God “face to face” is a metaphor for speaking to God “directly”, as opposed to “through one of His angels”.  It was Moses who God first told, “No man ca…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 20 2011,21:00)Maybe you forgot that I believe that Jesus is God so my statement is correct either way.  Then you believe that many men HAVE seen God, and therefore do NOT believe the scriptures.  But I've known for a long time that much of your understanding is NOT based on the scriptures – this is just one clear e…[Read more]

Trinitarian:  It makes perfect sense that the Son OF God IS the exact God he is the Son OF.If Jesus is God Almighty, and Jesus is the Son OF God Almighty, then wouldn't Jesus be his own Son?Only in Bizzaro World would anyone even be able to claim this oddity with a straight face.  

NO D, you didn't refute it, nor CAN you.You are still rambling on about the other beliefs of the man who said this brilliant statement.  You act as if since you're not a Trinitarian, no Trinitarian has EVER said ANYTHING that you agree with or that is scriptural truth.  How lame, illogical, and childish.He who makes is one, while he through whom t…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 20 2011,17:03)Thanks WJ. More live examples would be appreciated.I concur.  I was hoping this thread would attract some live examples.  But while we wait, here's one from Keith:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all t…[Read more]