Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2011,12:02)We do not really know what kind of bodies Angels possess when they are not in our plane of existence.Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 27 2011,05:46)So you agree that they must have a body of some sort then?  Excellent!  Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2011,13:32)Hi Mike,It is evident from scripture that they do, at least when they <…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2011,13:46)Hi Mike,When the prophets say: “The Word of The LORD came to me”,are you asserting it was Jesus (according to Mike) that came to them?Was it not the “HolySpirit” that came to them instead? will you ignore this?No Ed.  What you are doing is playing the Istari game here.  You assume that because “word” has a m…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2011,13:29)John 14:17 The Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.NET © the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot accept, because it does not see him or know him. But you know him, because he resides 2…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2011,13:20)Quote what is it that separates where the being of a particular angel IS from where the being of that same particular angel IS NOT at any given time? Um, Ah, space?Very good, Ed. Now if you can realize that “space” has no power to separate one thing from another UNLESS there is an outer perimeter to those…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2011,13:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 27 2011,05:34)Hi Ed,Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2011,11:45)You are also reading into the verse to say son's of God means angels.Do you refute this understanding?  If so, why?  And what scriptural support do you have to claim “sons of God” refer to someone other than angels?And more importantly:  …[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2011,13:19)Hi Mike,You may have overlooked my previous response to this.When people go to Church to present themselves to The LORD,does that mean the LORD was not with them before? In more term,does that mean that the LORD is only at the church where they're going?Not at all.  I PURPOSELY ignored it as the diversion from the…[Read more]

Hi Pierre,Ed and I have discussed Acts 5 before.  Here are the TWO parts of that passage we have to take into consideration:1.  3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4 Didn’t it belong to you befor…[Read more]

Quote Hi Mike,Glad to hear you learned to adjust your questions to get the intended question addressed; In other words, you are going to take credit for teaching me how to redefine and tweak the questions that you refused to answer the first time I asked them?         Thanks Ed!  Thanks for being such a diverter that I've had to learn to word…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2011,11:51)Hi Mike,So you don't really believe “God The Father” is in you? …only in a poetic sense?You further believe the “Holy Spirit” is everywhere, but not “God The Father”?I believe what the scriptures I listed teach me, Ed. Don't you? And I believe that the Holy Spirit CAN BE sent to anywhere and everywhere God…[Read more]

Hi Ed,It is for this reason that you are irritating to discourse with.  If you were a novice to the scriptures, I'd have no problem with these nit-picky questions and diversions.  But you claim to be a learned student of the written word of God, so it becomes irritating to me.Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2011,11:45)You are reading into the verse to say i…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2011,23:37)t8,When scripture distinguishes Jesus from God, it is God the Father who He is being distinguished from………..Very good Kathi.  You are correct that scripture very clearly and very many times distinguishes Jesus as someone OTHER THAN “God”.You have grasped the reality that they are distinguishing Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2011,23:15)Let's put this into an equation:True God and eternal life = knowing the Father + being in His SonTake one person away from the right side of the equation and you do not have what is on the left.  You need both and we need the Spirit to be in His Son.Why do you think that is, Kathi?  Do you suppose God is l…[Read more]

Hey Gene,You acknowledge that angels DO have bodies. What are those bodies made of?

Quote (theodorej @ June 26 2011,09:09)When you factor in the unknown(that being that Gods ways and knowledge are higher than ours) it becomes abundantly clear that the Son(The Word)and the Father(The IAM)are one in the same and the spirit is the essence and power of the one God HeadHi Theo,So it is the things that are unknown to you that make this…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 26 2011,00:10)you must be in sales ? exellent psychology,but no thanks i do not buy it. Hear, hear!

Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2011,23:19)Pierre,No where does it say that God created His pre-existent Son.  Any verse that you think implies that, has better translations than what you are looking at or your understanding is not correct.  Until you see this you will remain in your error, imo.Love to you,KathiSure it does. Prov 8:22, Col 1:15, P…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2011,22:55)A parent = a person + his offspringOkay, the “PERSON” is King David. The “OFFSPRING” is Solomon. The “PARENT” is King David with his offspring.Here is your assertion:First Solomon always existed within King David, who was merely a mighty king of Israel. Then King David brought Solomon forth. All of a…[Read more]

Well Tim,I must admit that I am utterly shocked.  First you openly admit that you have “chosen” the God (with a capital “G”) who brought us truth FROM god (who you later render with a small “g” and call “a god of death/destruction”).  But then you again admit that the power Jesus does have was GIVEN TO HIM by this lower case “god of d…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 26 2011,08:31)Mike………..Your perverted view of scriptures are on your side, as with all Trinitarians and Preexistences , you all can't understand that God the Glory of GOD can exist with a person before they are born , just as King Cyrus's glory existed for him before he was ever bornWhy did you change the word you…[Read more]

But Gene, can't you even see that the “follies” you accuse me expounding are exactly what I've exposed Paladin as doing?Didn't you see that he tried to convince unwitting people that the imperfect tense of “echo” in John 17:5 prohibited Jesus from speaking of a glory he once had, but had no longer, and wanted back?What he so confidently claimed…[Read more]