Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 30 2011,17:57)Kathi wrote:Quote It is absolutely significant what greater and lessor means.  I think they merely mean one is greater in His position in the relationship as Father, not greater in regards to nature.Yes and even the lesser postion Chist had was the result of His own volition (Phil. 2). He did not have to…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 30 2011,10:45)I think the bulk of the problem on here is the inability of seeing the Almighty God as the Father who is with His Son and their Spirit.So are you now a Trinitarian, Kathi?  Well, the road is wide enough for all of you.Quote (Lightenup @ June 30 2011,10:45)They think the Almighty God is the Father apart from…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 30 2011,08:56)The fact that Jesus is supreme ruler and sovereign over all the creation and that all things are in his hands and that he is the source of all things to the creation is all the proof any one should need to prove he is God!Hi Keith,1. WHOSE creation does it say that Jesus rules over?2. What scripture…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 30 2011,00:44)I think they merely mean one is greater in His position in the relationship as Father, not greater in regards to nature.  It doesn't really matter though, does it?  If the Father is greater than Jesus in ANY RESPECT AT ALL, then you no longer have two EQUAL mighty gods who form one Almighty God.  Do you not kn…[Read more]

It seems that Sunshine has overlooked some of my last post.  Let me clarify what ALL of these scholars seemed to agree upon – (the parts he ignored or glossed over in his response):Paul is clearly speaking to those whom he considers to be the elect – those who will be raised to a life in heaven; as most, if not all of his letters are addressed.…[Read more]

Kathi,I don't mean to be harsh, but come on girl.  I can't answer your scriptural questions by repeating “Jesus is a leprechaun, that's why!”, right?  Yet that is what you are doing, in effect.  You post things you've only imagined as if they’re legitimate answers to the REAL questions I’ve asked about the scriptures.And if that's what you&#0…[Read more]

Who's the one adding to scriptures? I don't remember scripture saying Jesus' “body, soul and spirit” came down from heaven, do you? I do remember someone applying this scripture to him: “A body you prepared for me”. Who is the “ME” that had a body prepared for him? And the question is why JESUS, (not God who foreknew everything), would have…[Read more]

Kathi,If you think that mindless, unscriptural fluff you posted is an answer to ANY post I made, then nevermind.

Quote (942767 @ June 29 2011,20:08)Hi Mike:You say: “Jesus could have had a soul prior to his birth into this world since God and angels have souls”.  There is only “One God” and Men and angels are created beings”.  The breath of God makes them living souls.There is no scripture that states that Jesus had a soul prior to his birth into this w…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 29 2011,19:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 30 2011,10:36)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 29 2011,09:59)Irene……….Doe this mean anything to you……..1 John 3:2……> Beloved now are we the sons of God , and it does not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 29 2011,19:39)Mike,I think that Jesus is still man and God.  My point was that He was never JUST man like us.Keith knows that an only begotten Son of God would not be a created angel…he is many steps ahead of you.KathiOh. So it is nothing but another case of “Exception for Jesus” then? Because if the same words are…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ June 29 2011,19:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2011,04:08)Hi Marty,This discussion is better suited to the “What is a soul?” thread.  While the word “nephesh” is commonly used to refer to the entire human being, it is also clear that a “soul” is somthing other than the body.  Jesus said not to fear those who could ONLY kill the b…[Read more]

Quote 1 Samuel 10:1Then Samuel took a flask of oil and poured it on Saul’s head and kissed him, saying, “Has not the LORD anointed you leader over his inheritance?Think, Kathi, think!  Must I list all the other scriptures that speak of all the others JEHOVAH anointed?  Do you agree that it was JEHOVAH who anointed Saul?  Or do you think that b…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ June 29 2011,04:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 29 2011,14:59)Quote (Paladin @ June 28 2011,16:15)You did not “correct” my Greek, you asserted your own, and claimed victory.Really?  Then post once again how the imperfect tense of “echo” prohibits Jesus from speaking about a glory he had, then no longer had, but wants back again.Stick…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 29 2011,08:34)Mike……….All your post is full of holes , first Why would Jesus be FOREORDAINED if he already existed, Why would he be manifested (brought into existence) if he already existed,Well Gene,It seems we've discovered a BIG PART of your misunderstanding.  You seem to think “manifest” means “brought into…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ June 27 2011,04:15)The most high God always delivered men from destruction, death, lions, furnaces, etc.!Yes He did! And many times at the expense and DEATH of other men. Is this true?

Kathi,I started to answer your response to my post point by point, but then got so frustrated I deleted it. Frankly, it's not worth my time.You made a joke about sending your husband to the store, because to answer the question truthfully, you would have to admit that he who sends is greater than he who is sent. Jesus himself tells us this, in…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 28 2011,11:26)Acts 20:28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.1 Cor 6:20 For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.God=Jesus in these verses, not God the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2011,10:55)Does everything come to you from Jesus own hands or not?No. All things are FROM God and THROUGH Jesus. So things come to me THROUGH the “hands” of Jesus, if you want to word it that way. Never FROM the hands of Jesus. For anything and everything Jesus has first came to him FROM his own God.So if a…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2011,08:29)If an animal is equal to a dog in nature then it is a dog!But how many dogs are there in existence?  How many God Almightys are there in existence?Do a fair comparison, Keith.  Let's take Rin Tin Tin for example.  Could you say that Rin Tin Tin is EQUAL TO Rin Tin Tin?  No, right?Therefore you can't say…[Read more]