Quote (942767 @ July 03 2011,13:07)I answered your question.  Paul is not talking about the Logos of God in these verses.  He is talking of human wisdom.Right.  Which means the word “logos” does not ALWAYS refer to “the totality of God's Word”, but sometimes simply refers to any plain old “word”.  I submit that you have either misunderstood you…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ July 03 2011,12:32)Mike LISTEN VERY CLOSELYAll it takes is for you to produce a verse that shows Jesus receiving something he had before, and the activity being described in the Greek imperfect parallel to how it is used in John 17:5.Paladin,Here's one that's close enough to prove my point:Matthew 27:16 NET © At that time they had…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 03 2011,12:52)Hi Mike:Paul is speaking of Human wisdom in these verses, and not the Logos of God.Love in Christ,MartyOf course he is, Marty. And since he used the word “logos” to refer to words of human wisdom, the word “logos” does not necessarily mean what your revelation told you it does.It also could simply mean “word” -…[Read more]

Paladin, listen VERY closely here:DOES THE IMPERFECT TENSE OF ECHO PROHIBIT JESUS FROM REFERRING TO A PAST GLORY THAT HE HIMSELF HAD OR NOT?  YES or NO?

Quote (Istari @ July 03 2011,12:34)You have not proved anything except that your expertise is in deception.Yes Istari, I was being deceptive when those six scholars YOU brought up agreed with ME! Quote (Istari @ July 03 2011,12:34)Just answer the single question, Mike.Refusal to answer is an admittance that you Cannot because you Cannot…Does…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 01 2011,19:32)Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2011,10:58)Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2011,08:03)Hi WJ,Here is John's record of Jesus' account on equality…My Father is greater than I. (John 14:28)How do you account for this non-equality?Looking forward to your answer regarding this   … in Bizzaro World Doctrines, for the record !HI…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ July 03 2011,10:37)The link I gave DOES NOT PROVE YOUR CASE. You have merely done what Paladin accused you of: Selected bitty parts from what was said to cobble together your own version of what was ACTUALLY SAID…Really?  It was YOU who posted that link……….not ME.  Can I help it if all of those scholars understand “…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ July 03 2011,10:37)Mike, please just address the SINGLE QUESTION I asked…How rich!       I'll make you a deal, Sunshine:I'll DIRECTLY address your ONE question if you PROMISE that you will address the 30 questions from me that you've avoided since this thread started……………AND……….each and every subsequent direct qu…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 03 2011,08:23)Paladin is definitely a GOD send to this site, and we all need to listen more closely and that includes me also.  He expounds the Greek more perfectly then anyone i have heard here in the past five or six years. We all have a chance to grow here with a more sound understanding of scriptures and we need to…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 03 2011,08:02)Good morning brothers and sisters in Christ:I asked God for understanding relative to the Greek Words Logos and Rhema, and I believe that He has shown me that the Logos is “The totality of God's Word” whereas the Rhema are “the individual sayings of God”.Thus when Jesus was tempted by the devil he replied:Quote Ma…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ July 03 2011,03:44)Hmm… Interesting summary of Mikeboll64.Seems to be a growing opinion!Good! Because, like Jesus, I came here not to bring peace, but a sword. And apparently, judging by those of you who spout unscriptural nonsense crying to your mamas, I am doing what I came to do.

Quote (Paladin @ July 03 2011,02:00)All it takes is for you to produce a verse that shows Jesus receiving something he had before, and the activity being described in the Greek imperfect parallel to how it is used in John 17:5.Blah, blah, blah.  EVEN MORE circling and diversions, huh?  The fact is that YOU claimed the imperfect tense prohibited J…[Read more]

Charles,You post was incoherent gibberish. And it didn't do anything at all to refute my claim that the Son of God must be a different being than God Himself………….nor support your claim that God and the Son He begot ARE the same Being.

Quote (Tim Kraft @ July 03 2011,04:27)Mike: As to the days of Noah after the evil washed away did not God promise with a rainbow not to destroy again?As to evil persons. You are incorrect. What is “thought” on the inside, mind/heart, will be manifested on the outside. Jesus said men were cleaning the outside (to look good to others) but on the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2011,23:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 03 2011,13:39)I'm also curious to find out how everything exists INSIDE of the Being of God.  Ed?  Charles?Hi Mike,Would you like me to wait and give csaliba a chance to answer this?Pierre believes I will have no trouble answering this question.God blessEd J It's your world, boss.  But I sh…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ July 03 2011,01:12)Now why not Prove YOUR CASE…!!You have already proved my case for me.  It was you who lead us all to a link where no less than six scriptural experts agreed with the understanding this novice has been supporting for over a year on this thread.Paul, who knew he would exist in heaven forevermore, was anxious to…[Read more]

Hi Gene,Thank you for your good and concise answer.  I have two points for you to consider:1.  You have to ADD the word “IN” into the scripture to make your understanding be realized…………….I don't.  My understanding takes the words of the scripture as they are written.2.  Why would you suppose that God, as a spirit being, would not cre…[Read more]

I'm also curious to find out how everything exists INSIDE of the Being of God. Ed? Charles?

Quote (terraricca @ June 30 2011,22:52)Mike6 For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel: for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him. 7 His government shall be great, and of his peace there is no end: it shall be upon the throne of…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ July 01 2011,19:52)hey Mike! Need some help/ OkHi Irene,Yeah, help away!