Quote (Paladin @ July 04 2011,09:41)The very name of the Tense comes from its basic significantfeature, i.e., it describes a past continuous action AND it does not tell us whether that action was ever completed, or whether that action was not completed; it is silent as to the cessation of activity.Hey Gene, Did you read that?  How about you…[Read more]

Btw Paladin,Could you verify the accuracy of Gene's most recent post (the parts concerning our discussion about “echo”).  We both know it's nothing but gibberish, but maybe he'll believe it if YOU tell him.  Then maybe he'll remain silent at the children's table until we're discussing something he understands.

While it is very telling that you now admit you can't tell whether the action was completed or not, I'm still awaiting an answer, Paladin.  The question is bolded at the bottom of my previous post. If you “can't tell”, then there is no way for you to claim with any certainty that the glory Jesus referred to hadn't ended, right? Therefore your…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 04 2011,09:35)Istari……………Mike so confused he doesn't know if he is foot or horseback,  He can't even understand that a Spirit (IS) Not a BODY, so how can he answer you , and If he agree then his Pride and his House of cards comes crashing down. But Pride and arrogances is what it is at stake here with him so…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ July 04 2011,09:26)Does anyone have any idea why Mikeboll might NOT WANT TO POST a definition of BODY?Does anybody had any idea why Istari might NOT WANT TO AGREE to my deal, where I will answer his questions DIRECTLY if he agrees to answer my questions DIRECTLY?I wonder what he's scared of………………

Istari,Do we have a deal?

Hi Gene,Good guess, but no dice.    The “echo” thing we're discussing has NOTHING AT ALL to do with the “logos/rhema” thing.  I asked you to explain your view on the “echo” thing, and you sputtered some nonsense about the other thing.  That just goes to show that you have no clue what we're even disagreeing about.  And since you don't, you shou…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ July 04 2011,08:22)The problem is, sometimes in scripture the two seem to get mixed as though it doesn't matter, and that adds to the confusion among scholars.Paladin,They don't “sometimes seem to get mixed as though it doesn't matter”.  The fact is that the two words simply mean “word”, and they are interchangeable. Therefore…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ July 04 2011,03:25)What part of….. For you to describe Jesus as having glory in the past, and it stopped, and he now wants it restored, or applied again, requires Aorist application to the grammar, not imperfect, which describes a continuous possession of glory, and being continuous, cannot be given again, nor can it be…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ July 04 2011,02:40)When God has an idea or concept, it is logos. When God expresses it by reducing it to a written record, it is reema.There are occasions in scripture where it seems that the words overlap in application.       Do you see that Marty?  This is the closest any of us will ever come to Paladin admitting he was wro…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 03 2011,18:13)MIke…………Your desperation is obvious , Paladin is right in what he presented, Your simply can't admit the truth when it is right in front of your face. Making Large letters and using stupid Icons to try to belittle and FORCE you DOGMAS on others is the only extent of you intelligence it seem lately.…[Read more]

I agree Shimmer.

Our Father is in heaven, as Jesus repeatedly taught us. He dwells in unapproachable light that no man can look upon.He can rule over earth and be with us, for us, and in us through His active force (the Holy Spirit), and through His many vice regents. But He Himself remains in heaven…………for now.

Our Father is in heaven, as Jesus repeatedly taught us. He dwells in unapproachable light that no man can look upon.He can rule over earth and be with us, for us, and in us through His active force (the Holy Spirit), and through His many vice regents. But He Himself remains in heaven…………for now.

Quote (Istari @ July 04 2011,01:54)You see what APPEARS to be a supporting script and hack it to death until it SOUNDS like what you WANT it to say…You're the one who posted the link. Why not “unhack it” for me and show us all how these scholars really agree with you and not me.

Quote (Istari @ July 04 2011,03:10)So I ask Mikeboll again:If a Spirit has a Body… What then is the Spirit in that Body…So I ask Istari again:Do we have a deal? Question for question, direct answer for direct answer?

Quote (Paladin @ July 03 2011,14:01)Mike, I have already answered your question several times.Is that so?  Well then, let me tweak the question by adding four little words to it:DOES THE IMPERFECT TENSE OF ECHO IN AND OF ITSELF PROHIBIT JESUS FROM REFERRING TO A PAST GLORY THAT HE HIMSELF HAD OR NOT?  YES or NO?

You are a deceitful man, Paladin.  I agree that you THINK you can use “big words” to fool us.  And I even agree it WORKS for people like Gene.  Not me, pal.I don't need to read a millions bogus words from you to get the answer to my question.  For my question requires merely a “YES” or a “NO”.  I appears that you want to stick with your “YES” answ…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ July 03 2011,14:31)And I say again: the link does not show you are right – it does the opposite.Show me how.

Quote (Istari @ July 03 2011,14:16)Why not just answer the question if you feel you are correct. Why are you afraid to answer a 'simple' question?Do we have a deal or not you coward? What is it about MY questions to YOU that YOU are so afraid of? Make the deal, and I'll be happy to answer your question.