Quote (Istari @ July 08 2011,02:52)Irene, Mikeboll,I challenge you to post ONE SINGLE CREDIBLE WRITING ON “Spirit Body”!Well, Shimmer and Irene have both posted writings from this Pyles guy, which explain a spiritual body the same way I have been explaining it for a long time.And you have posted a link where six learned scholars also explain…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ July 08 2011,02:36)Mikeboll, is there ever a chance that you will stop opposing me –Sure there is.  If you ever start posting truth, I will stop opposing you!  

Sometimes I forget to subtract things. Hey, together we could make up one almost normal person!

Deuteronomy 26:15Look down from heaven, your holy dwelling place,1 Kings 8:30Hear from heaven, your dwelling place, 1 Kings 8:39then hear from heaven, your dwelling place. 1 Kings 8:43then hear from heaven, your dwelling place,1 Kings 8:49then from heaven, your dwelling place, hear their prayer and their plea,2 Chronicles 30:27and God heard them,…[Read more]

Okay Pierre. Was there a post of mine you were responding to? Or were you just making a general statement of knowlege?

Hi Shimmer,Did you mean to post that in your “Writings” thread? I'm not seeing a connection to this thread. Or am I missing something here?

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 07 2011,09:07)Mike……….The LOGOS (intellect of GOD) or Spirit of GOD came to be (IN) Flesh Gene, but the scripture doesn't say “came to be IN flesh”, does it?  Don't even talk to me until you're ready to discuss the scriptures AS THEY'RE WRITTEN, not AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM BE WRITTEN.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 07…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 07 2011,06:43)Hi Mike:The Logos was made flesh.  That means there was a change from Logos to flesh.  And so, no it was not the Logos who dwelt among us, but the human being to whom the Logos pertained.The Logos was made flesh and dwelt among us, but it was NOT the Logos who dwelt among us?    Marty, are you unable to even see…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ July 07 2011,05:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 07 2011,14:08)Quote (Paladin @ July 06 2011,04:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 06 2011,12:43)Quote (Paladin @ July 05 2011,05:37)Quote (mike @ 64)Paladin,You are confusing an action that WAS continuous IN THE PAST with an action that is STILL ongoing and has NEVER ended.Not me. I never…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 07 2011,06:52)If you want to preach that he pre-existed, then you prove to us that he did.Well, he came DOWN from heaven. And he had glory alongside God before the creation of the world. There's much more to add, but that should be enough proof for now. So let's turn the tables: If YOU want to teach that Jesus DIDN'T…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 07 2011,06:52)No, Mike:If you want to preach that he pre-existed, then you prove to us that he did.  I understand your statement to mean that not one of the scriptures you quoted prohibits the pre-existence of Jesus……………and that you know it.  Quote (942767 @ July 07 2011,06:52)He was foreordained and was to be made m…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 07 2011,09:19)So you want us to believe the Father God told Jesus that “he laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens were the work of Jesus hands”, but Jesus hands wasn't there to do it? Good point, Keith.

Hey Keith,What about my last post?  Did you overlook it?  Or have I again overlooked your response?To All, How about this equation:The son of the ORIGINAL and ONLY EXISTING “Adam” was AN adam, but not THE Adam who brought him forth.The son of the ORIGINAL and ONLY EXISTING God Almighty is A god, but not THE God who brought him forth.Does anyone f…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ July 07 2011,01:37)Note again that Paul did not say 'Clime of HEAVEN' but:'Heavenly Clime': State of GloryIt was not Paul who said “clime” at all.  It was the author Irene posted.And “clime” is nothing but a poetic way of saying “climate”.  In other words, Irene's source was telling you what I've been telling you – that a s…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 06 2011,07:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 20 2011,14:29)John 1:14 – The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of an only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.Non-preexister:  This really means, “The Word CAME TO BE IN SOMEONE WHO WAS FLESH”.My doctine does not…[Read more]

So Gene,There is NOT really a scripture that says Jesus' disciples were “from Above”? Why did you claim there was then?

So not only do we have TWO Gods, but also TWO Jesus's?  We have a HUMAN Jesus AND a GOD Jesus?Kathi, our ONE Jesus is the one who sang the song TO God Almighty.  The word “AND” is clear enough for anyone who is not deliberately trying to exchange clear words for nonsense.What you imply is that Jesus, who is a part of God Almighty, deemed himself w…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ July 06 2011,15:16)When Paul speaks of a spiritual body, he means a material yet incorruptible and immortal body adapted to the heavenly clime, and this is in contrast to the natural body, which refers to the corruptible and mortal body that is adapted to the earthly clime.Instead, the obvious intent is to explain His meaning of…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 06 2011,18:24)Hi Mike:I am not denying that John 1:14 is about Jesus………….the totality of God's Word pertains to him, but he is not the Logos.Hi Marty,You only need to follow through what I've showed you about “HIM”.  If it was the LOGOS that BECAME flesh, then it was also the LOGOS who dwelled among mankind and was…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ July 06 2011,04:17)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 06 2011,12:43)Quote (Paladin @ July 05 2011,05:37)Quote (mike @ 64)Paladin,You are confusing an action that WAS continuous IN THE PAST with an action that is STILL ongoing and has NEVER ended.Not me. I never claimed any such thing. I have never said”Still ongoing” nor have I said “Never…[Read more]