Quote (shimmer @ July 12 2011,20:52)Irene, a ransom and the denial of the bodily resurrection of Christ is nothing but the text of the JWs. And you say you didn't learn it from them?Shimmer,I agree with you that Jesus was raised in the same body he died in. But what do the JWs have to do with it?I hate it when people use this flawed tactic. It's…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ July 12 2011,20:53)Istari and Gene I think we are really wasting our time here.Why do you lump Gene in with you two? Gene believes that angels DO have bodies. Btw Gene, I await your explanation about the kind of bodies angels have.

Quote (shimmer @ July 12 2011,20:47)Doesn't say in there that Angels or God has a body does it?Doesn't say they don't, does it? I found quotes from Origen, Bernard, and Augustine in that same source you quoted where they say God ALONE doesn't have a body, and all other things, including angels, do.I don't care what any man says, including the…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ July 12 2011,18:58)and I can rarely understand anything Terraricca says bit it isn't anything of value – Just 'Good post, Mike' even though he actually doesnt understand what he just read – just thought something was funny. Mike, is this what turns you on – is that what you are about – just someone to massage your ego – even if…[Read more]

Hi Marty,I agree with your post, except I think we have different understandings of God dwelling “IN” someone.  I don't think the Being of God could ever be within a human being.But I do agree that God CAN BE anywhere and everywhere He wants to be through Spirit OR in Person.  But He is not ALWAYS “everywhere all the time”, for He is said to d…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 12 2011,08:47)But no, it the fact that the word had “echo” was used would not prohibit Jesus glory coming to an end in the past, but there is nothing in the scriptures showing this as there is in the case of Barabbas.MAY GOD BLESS YOU, Marty! Thank you, thank you, thank you!  After weeks of this, I FINALLY got an honest…[Read more]

Kathi,Please stay on topic.

Quote (kerwin @ July 12 2011,17:45)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 12 2011,08:27)If God is truly omnipresent, then He is everywhere WITHOUT EXCEPTION.I already answered it.God is not a created being and therefore should not be thought of as such.Kerwin,That is not an answer to my point – at least not that I can see.  I KNOW God is not created.     Wh…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ July 12 2011,03:28)If the Bible say's God is everywhere, then God is. Somehow!And if Jesus says God is in heaven, dwelling in unapproachable light, He is, right?Shimmer, I was only asking a question. And for your information, “I don't know” is ALWAYS an acceptable answer.Btw, what is a “Paddock”?

Quote (seekingtruth @ July 12 2011,03:15)Mike,As I stated above  “I believe that the Father has an awareness of living things throughout creation but He is not “physically” present anywhere in our reality.” otherwise why would I need to be filled with the Holy Spirit, He would already be in me. I believe this line of reasoning is consistent with…[Read more]

Shimmer: Still waiting for an answer about the body Paul was anxious to receive.Gene: Still waiting for an answer about what the bodies of angels are made of.Istari: Still waiting for you to address the three points I outlined last night for you.peace,mike

Quote (terraricca @ July 10 2011,22:00)Jn 6:57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.Hmmm………….Jesus lives BECAUSE OF the Father.  I wonder if the Father also lives BECAUSE OF Jesus?  What do you say, Kathi?

Will any of the “Omnipresent” people address my point?If God is truly omnipresent, then He is everywhere WITHOUT EXCEPTION. If that is the case, God fills up the space that is you and me. And if it is God who occupies the space that is us, then wouldn't we BE God?It would also mean that God occupies the space that is Satan, and therefore Satan…[Read more]

Hi All,The topic remains “Where is God?”

Quote (942767 @ July 11 2011,19:35)This is speculation because the scripture in Philippians does not state that “he existed in the form of God” before he became a human being.You are you not adding something to the scripture?Okay Marty!  Have in you the mind of the drunkard,Who, existing with a full bladder,Emptied himself,And came to have an…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 11 2011,07:05)i have answered you ignorant questions many timesHi Gene,There are no ignorant questions – only ignorant answers.  I learned that in school years ago.  Here is a new “double question” for ya:Gene, Paladin and Marty: Does the imperfect tense of “echo” in Matthew 27:16 prohibit the custody of Barabbas f…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ July 11 2011,03:21)Aggravating maybe; “stupid”, never.  Good!  Then I'm doing my job! Quote (Paladin @ July 11 2011,03:21)I will try to catch up on some of the posts I have missed,I'm only waiting for the answer to one question, and one question ONLY.  In fact, I'm about to rephrase that question for Gene in my next post, so yo…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2011,17:39)this is very good well explain truth in scriptures is seen here,

Marty, No, Jesus was NOT a human being before he became flesh. He was existing in the form of God before being made into the likeness of a human being, remember?

Quote (Lightenup @ July 10 2011,21:28)You wouldn't be speaking to your father if he never had children would youThat doesn't address my point at all, Kathi.  If I talk to my EARTH father, I don't imagine I'm talking to him AND one of his other sons at the same time.  So why, when I talk to my HEAVENLY Father, would I imagine I'm talking to Him A…[Read more]