Hi Ed,So then the answer is “NO”? I'm no more sure from YOUR words than I was from his. Are you trying to say, “NO Mike, he was NOT saying echo prohibited Jesus from asking for the return of a past glory” ?

I can't for the life of me believe that God would have a use for babbling, thrashing prophets who look and talk like they have brain damage.I don't remember Jesus, his disciples, or any of God's other prophets behaving like this – although He did have some of them do some things that probably seemed odd at the time. I've always tried to get a…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ July 18 2011,03:55)nearer to clearerI love that, Shimmer! I'm going to use that one.

Quote (Pastry @ July 18 2011,20:50)Mike!  Before Paladin, we only concerned ourselves with the English translation of the Bible.  Now since Paladin it is not good enough any longer?Hi Irene,Kangaroo Jack got me looking into the original languages and lexicons over two years ago………….almost two full years before I ever heard the name P…[Read more]

Not at all, Ed.  What I want to know from Paladin is if he was claiming that the imperfect tense of “echo” in John 17:5 prohibited Jesus from asking for the return of a glory he had in the past. What is his answer?  WAS he claiming this?  Or was he NOT claiming this?  Can you tell from his words?  He won't say, so what's your best guess?I'm not…[Read more]

Bump for Keith, Jack and Kathi

Quote (shimmer @ July 18 2011,03:56)But in the end, if the water droplets of the Spirit (In a manner of speaking) are just floating around in space – are they then not everywhere – all at the same time? Isn't that what Istari said?Yes, that is what Istari said.  But why would you think that each and every one of them was “everywhere all the…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ July 18 2011,03:55)The reason I ask is because Scriptures says it was when Jesus was raised from the dead that he was given a Spiritual BodyWhat scripture says that?

Quote (terraricca @ July 17 2011,22:14)Mikethe fact that Christ was himself all the way,Paul explain that Christ was humble down to believing and trusting God his father even to die knowing that God will keep his promise,to himOf course Jesus was himself the whole time, Pierre! But let's wait and see in what way Kathi tries to separate his…[Read more]

Hi Kathi,I'm not interested in poems about the deity of Jesus.  I'm interested in your SCRIPTURAL answer to my post at the top of this page.  Btw, I could go through that poem line by line and scripturally tear it apart.   But try reading it yourself scripturally, by adding 's Son after every “as God”.

Brought over from the Titus thread, per Kathi's request:Quote (Lightenup @ July 10 2011,21:28)You wouldn't be speaking to your father if he never had children would youThat doesn't address my point at all, Kathi. If I talk to my EARTH father, I don't imagine I'm talking to him AND one of his other sons at the same time. So why, when I talk to my…[Read more]

I will add to Pierre's comment:Why Kathi?  Why is salvation through “our God”, AND the Lamb?  Who set it up this way?  Who is the ONE who gave Jesus the COMMAND to give his life and take it up again?  Who's will did Jesus say he always does?So, do you think it was Jesus who decided that salvation would come through God and His Lamb?  Or does it m…[Read more]

Pierre,When you say “compare the scriptures within themselves”, know that unless you are reading the scriptures from an original Greek or Hebrew manuscript, you are reading a MAN'S interpretation of those scriptures every time.  So what's wrong with wanting to know what the actual Greek and Hebrew words said, instead some man's interpretation of…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 18 2011,07:09)And that is why you cannot understand…you see three different types being added together.How about this equation:1 human father + 1 human mother + 1 son =1 human familyThat is 1+1+1=1You just need to know what you are adding together and what that makes when you add them together.1 divine father + 1 divine…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 18 2011,07:56)You are in denial!  You make it sound like one of the demons had the name 'Legion' while the others each had their own separate names.  That doesn't hold water when you consider the definition of the word 'Legion' and these three verses.Doesn't it?  Let's see:Luke 8:30 NASAnd Jesus asked him, “What is your na…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 18 2011,03:46)Hi Paladin,Thanks for the in-depth explanation. I'm learning more about the Greek, but I still know more about Hebrew vernacular.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHey Ed,Were you able to find Paladin's answer in all that? I was wondering if he was claiming that the imperfect tense of the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 18 2011,17:23)no one will be saved on the bases of understanding Greek or Hebrew ,this would similar to be circumcised or following the law with animal offerings,Hi Pierre, Georg and Irene!  Let's not go overboard on this thing.  If someone at sometime didn't take an interest in learning Greek or Hebrew, we might now h…[Read more]

Paladin,Not one of your twenty-one examples of me “twisting your words so they say the reverse” is legit. What you've posted was my opinion of what your words said BETWEEN THE LINES.  Calling that a “twisting of your words so they say the reverse” is like me saying the same thing about you when I say I'm right and you post that I'm wrong.  “HEY, P…[Read more]

Hmmmm………interesting responses.I think the simple question “IS that what you were saying or not?” should be easy enough to answer.  And if the answer is going to be, “Well, kind of – with these exceptions”, or something to that effect, then just SAY THAT!  Don't sit there ignoring someone by saying, “It's not a YES or NO question”.  If it…[Read more]

In that case, I don't understand the question. Why should Job have been able to see God anywhere? No man has ever seen God, right?