Quote (Lightenup @ July 27 2011,23:31)Mike,In the OT you do not see where God is called the Father and the Son called the Son.Sure I do.  Psalm 2.  Proverbs 30.Quote (Lightenup @ July 27 2011,23:31)In the OT, the unity was presented as Jehovah our God who is God of gods and Lord of lords or just God and just Lord (Adonay) at times.Show me the u…[Read more]

Okay,I'll go back to square one with him if that's what it will take. But not tonight. I've been posting all over the place tonight, and I'm TIRED. And I haven't forgotten you Kerwin. I want to discuss your last post soon.peace and goodnight,mike

Pierre,

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 26 2011,12:44)HaHa MikePlease tell us how Jesus is different than the Father in nature?Keith,Is Satan a spirit being like his Father?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2011,09:25)KathiOnce again you are correct! The scriptures do not claim that we are to be “one with the Father” but we are to be “one with them”.But this “THEM” is always referred to as a “HIM”, right guys?  So why would you now say “THEM” instead of “but we are to be one with HIM”?  See Keith?  As I recently to…[Read more]

Kathi,Could you answer my question? I'm trying to gauge your intelligence level.Revelation 1:5NASB © and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood— NRSV © and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of…[Read more]

Wow, I should just walk away.  You seem to take every single thing I say the wrong way Princess.I said NOTHING about the spirituality of children.  I was speaking of a three year old's grasp of language.  For at about that age, they are only beginning to know the difference between a “HE” and a “THEY”, and what it means to be “OF” something or so…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 27 2011,11:42)Quote (942767 @ July 28 2011,02:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2011,13:47)Quote (942767 @ July 26 2011,19:37)Proverbs: 8 is speaking of Wisdom, but may refer indirectly to Jesus since God made every thing by him and for him, but it says nothing about Jesus being the first creature that God created.  This…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 27 2011,07:54)It is the Son of Man in flesh that is distinct from Jehovah our God. Jehovah our God is not a man. The Son of man is a man. The Son of God pre-existed the Son of man.So you preach TWO separate Sons – one of them a man and the other God?And then you try to “smooth it over” by saying “ONE person, TWO…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 27 2011,14:30)Show me the scripture which states that he is the first creature that God created. The scripture states that he is the “firstborn over all creation”. And so, where does it say that he was the first creature that God created?No Marty,It does NOT say “firstborn OVER all creation”. That is a Trinitarian myth. It…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 27 2011,14:14)I did not know that being the firstborn can make something else than the first ,no ?if he is not the first then who is ?Yeah guys, who IS the firstborn of every creature?  There are many scriptures that claim it is Jesus – but you guys don't want to believe those scriptures.  So………….WHO IS IT THEN, i…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 27 2011,13:43)As I said, this may refer to Jesus indirectly because God created all things by him, but nowhere, do the scriptures state that Jesus is the first creature created by God.  Colossians 1:15 states that he is “the firstborn of all creation”,Hey Marty,Did you know that “pasa ktisis” can be translated as “all…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2011,12:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 24 2011,21:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 05 2011,14:55)“But I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt. “You shall acknowledge no God ('elohiym) but me, no Savior except me”. Hosea 13:4Hi Keith, Jack and Kathi:Nehemiah 9:27Therefore thou deliveredst them into the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 27 2011,15:01)Pierre,You need to learn who Jehovah is.  He is BOTH the Father and the Son.  Salvation belongs to both.  This is further confirmation of the compound unity called Jehovah, our God.Rev 7:10 And they cried out in a loud voice: “Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the La…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 27 2011,07:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 26 2011,20:37)Keith, why won't you answer my post about Nehemiah and Isaiah?  Please answer it.mikeMikeYou don't control me or my post. I am letting you simmer!And two posts later, Keith say this about Pierre:“Thanks again for not answering the quesitons. Mike and t8 should he…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 27 2011,07:40)Mike,I haven't researched these passages but this is what Gill says about each:From Gill:thou heardest them from heaven; and according to thy manifold mercies thou gavest them saviours, who saved them out of the hands of their enemies; such were judges, Othniel, Ehud, Barak, Gideon, &c. and this was, done for…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 26 2011,22:53)Hi Mike,That wasn't my question. …and I think you kinda know that.Hi Ed,YOUR answer to MY question will easily answer your question for you. Will you answer it? Will you tell me who these OTHER saviors were?peace,mike

Quote (princess @ July 27 2011,18:37)Mike, I don't do trinity.Why? Is it because you don't enjoy the feeling of beating your head against a wall?Or is it because you don't like to discuss scriptural matters with people whose language comprehension skills rival those of a three year old?Come on guys, God is a “HE” not a “THEY”. And Jesus is the…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 27 2011,11:33)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 28 2011,01:51)Mike………….I disagree with the commentaries about “LOVE LESS” By comparison. I think what Jesus said was right. If we do not (HATE) our Fathers and Mothers and brothers and sisters ,and OUR (LIVES) ALSO WE can not be his disciple. Why? becasue you will…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin,Pierre's scripture points out the two resurrections. But I understand that all who are still dead will be raised in the second resurrection – some to go off into everlasting life and others into everlasting destruction. It is the same resurrection for everyone, for ALL will be raised and judged.Here's how the NIV translates your…[Read more]