Quote (princess @ July 31 2011,07:03)I saw the thread Mike, believe me KJ is not the martyr he is making himself out to be.I have no trouble whatsoever believing that.  I'm sure Jack's criteria was something along these lines:Agrees with KJ about scripture = INTELLIGENTDisagrees with KJ about scripture = STUPID  

Quote (kerwin @ July 31 2011,13:50)Quote In Colossians 1:15, is it the “Spirit of Sonship” who is the VISIBLE image of the invisible God? If you live by the Spirit of God then you are the image of the invisible God as you do as God does for God does his works through you.Okay Kerwin,Let's re-do Col 1 YOUR way.  The capped words are where I…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 26 2011,22:44)“The Word”(HolySpirit) became flesh. (John 1:14)So the whole time Jesus was on earth, God was without His Holy Spirit? He could not have filled John the Baptist with the Holy Spirit because that Spirit was not spirit any longer, for it had BECOME FLESH?Is that it?

Quote (kerwin @ July 26 2011,21:05)Mike,John was written in common Greek and not English.Yes Kerwin.  And in the common Greek, 1:14 says the Word came to BE flesh, not came to BE IN flesh.  Am I right?Quote (kerwin @ July 26 2011,21:05)Do you believe “flesh” is a position the Word came to fill like Arnold Swartzenegger  came to fill the po…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 31 2011,11:26)allJohn 3:12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. Jn 3:14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be l…[Read more]

John 2:16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father’s house into a market!” Whose house is the Temple of God?  Was it Jesus's house?  Or the house of HIS FATHER?  Once again, Jesus is someone OTHER THAN God, according to HIS OWN WORDS.

Then we agree, Pierre. For Jesus IS an angel of his God, yet is different from the group of spirit beings commonly referred to as "angels". peace,mike

Quote (princess @ July 29 2011,04:12)then the whole rib version comes in, now for one like myself, I prefer I am created just as you are created.So then you pick and choose which scriptures you WANT to believe. Okay Gene! (Note to Gene: Just as when Jesus said to Peter, “Get behind me Satan”, and didn't LITERALLY means Peter WAS Satan, I also…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ July 28 2011,22:50)Mike,I remember woman being created to be a help mate to man because man was lonely but I do not remember women being a possession.  A slave is a possession.Well Kerwin,Were wives romanced and courted and made to fall in love with their suitors?  Or were they GIVEN to their husbands as possessions?They were g…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 28 2011,08:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 27 2011,19:17)But I'd be willing to bet that his first two “proof” points about “Let us make man” and “plural Elohim” – which are easily refuted –  will be the best he has to offer.  peaceMikeNot at all! Matt 28:19 is a good start also, and there are many more. WJKeith,I d…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 30 2011,15:27)3) False!Okay Ed,Here we go taking BABY steps for you:Hosea 13:4“But I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt. You shall acknowledge no God but me, no Savior except me.1. Ed J, do the words “no savior except me” mean that there has never been any other savior mentioned in scripture besides Jehovah? Y…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 30 2011,15:15)Theos/god is a “masculine noun” but “Keith is a “proper name”. See how incomplete and deceptive your example is?Oh my yes!  I'm such a deceptive creature – thanks for catching me!  Let's try one that might not enable you to play word games:Btw, they only quote the word “gods”, not “called gods” as y…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 30 2011,15:15)MikeI don' have much time but…Now concerning the eating of foods offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that “there is no God but one”. 5 For even though “there are those who are “CALLED gods”,” whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lord…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ July 27 2011,05:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 25 2011,03:05)Quote (Ed J @ July 20 2011,22:54)I believe that God had a hand in the “AKJV Bible”;and that the five times God's name is used in the singular,and the three times his name is used in (phrases) naming altars,has a significance that goes way beyond his name written 6823 times.So…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin,Scripture NEVER teaches, or even implies that angels have flesh and bone.  In fact, Jesus teaches the exact OPPOSITE of your understanding in Luke 24:39.  So does Paul when he says that flesh cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.You add “or a physical likeness thereof”.Elijah's angels seemed to be made of FIRE, not flesh and bone.  And Ma…[Read more]

Okay Kerwin,Let's see if you can put your money where your mouth is:In Hebrews 1:2, was it “the Spirit of Sonship” that was referred to as “His Son”?  Is not Jesus Christ himself the “Son of God”?  Or is Jesus Christ only the person upon whom the “Spirit of Sonship” landed?And if it is the latter, then Jesus is NOT truly the Son of God as the s…[Read more]

John 150 Jesus said, “You believe because I told you I saw you under the fig tree. You shall see greater things than that.” 51 He then added, “I tell you the truth, you shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man.”Well, I haven't even left chapter 1 yet, and already I found this DIRECT QUOTE of Jesus&#…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 30 2011,08:56)Quote (Lightenup @ July 30 2011,14:30)Mike,I have no desire to go on a search for you in this regards.  I have proven that a compound unity is spoken about in the singular.  Gender is not the issue.KathiKathi,I recently made an interesting discovery regarding the idea of compound unity being spoken about i…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 29 2011,21:30)Mike,I have no desire to go on a search for you in this regards. Either put up or pipe down.  With all due respect,mike

Quote (princess @ July 31 2011,06:46)So, compromise, anyone making statement that jesus is god can only post in WJ's create thread……….How's that work for ya, Keith?    You guys are ONLY allowed to post your "Jesus is God" fallacies in that ONE thread forever, and you can mention any of us you want.  Deal?