Quote (942767 @ Aug. 04 2011,09:59)Quote And since Jesus is the FIRSTBORN of this “new creation of God”, do those words mean that Jesus was the FIRST CREATURE EVER to be a part of this “new creation of God”?  YES or NO?Yes Love in Christ,MartyOkay Marty,Now we're getting somewhere.  You've agreed that “FIRSTBORN OF THE NEW CREATION” would mean J…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 03 2011,22:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2011,08:37)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 02 2011,23:09)Colossians 1 King James Version (KJV)13 who(The unity who directly unified with God through the Spirit of God) hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 14In whom(The unity who…[Read more]

From the Biblos.com Apostolic Interlinear:27   244327   CONJ27   ἵνα27   ina27   so that 3936V-AAS-3Sπαραστήσῃparastēsēhe might present 846P-NSMαὐτὸςautosit 1438F-3DSMἑαυτῷeautōto himselfVarious translations:KJV:  That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and w…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2011,08:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 02 2011,20:00)Kathi, who exactly makes up our ONE “God Almighty”?mikeIt depends on the context Mike.Malachi 3:6 “I, Jehovah, do not change.Try again Kathi.

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2011,08:47)Mike,The 'autos' is the 'He' in the passage…see that it is in the nominative case which means that it is the pronoun that is the subject and not the direct or indirect object of the sentence.  The 'church' is in the accusative case which is another way of saying that the word is the direct object and…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 04 2011,16:04)HOW DO YOU KNOW that things such as dimensions and scriptural fractal wasn't revealed to Istari?I'm sure they WERE revealed to him…………..by the DISCOVERY CHANNEL.    Shimmer, God-given revelations will not go AGAINST the scriptures.  Nothing new that God reveals can ever contradict the other scriptures be…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 04 2011,08:33)To All…………Jesus was raised with a flesh and bone Body , Just as He said he was, and he said that body he had was NOT a Spirit in fact he said Spirits do not have bodies as He hadHi Gene,Why would you refuse to comment on my explanation post, but then still continue to post false information like…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 03 2011,21:32)MikeQuote Plus, you didn't address Balaam and the donkeyyes i did did you not see it ? ( look at my comment in brackets on Gen 19;11)what if the angel blind the donkey ,then what all animal do when blinded they stop.no ?PierreNumbers 22:23And the ass saw the angel of the LORD standing in the way, and his…[Read more]

Kathi? Keith? Jack? Where are you guys?This is your chance to show where Jesus himself taught that he was God Almighty.Don't you WANT to show us?

Kathi?

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 03 2011,00:08)The man could also be forced to mary the woman if the father decided to.Kerwin,That was the whole point.  A man could rape a woman against her will, and the BEST she could hope for was that he married her.2 Samuel 1314 But he refused to listen to her, and since he was stronger than she, he raped her. 15 Then…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 03 2011,20:15)all those encounters are sudden ,and for a purpose ,they taking man s figure this is because it can not go the other way ,this is the love of God ,angels are spirit beings ,and those who have speared to man ,took a man form,And what part of “took a man's form” insists that the form they took was comprised of…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 02 2011,23:12)Marty,It sounds like you might be onto something with “Jesus was not the first creature created by God.  He was the first of the creation of God to be born of God.”Hi Kerwin and Marty,Not only was he the FIRST, but he was also the ONLY creature of God said to be born of God.  This happened eons ago, before God c…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 02 2011,23:09)Colossians 1 King James Version (KJV)13 who(The unity who directly unified with God through the Spirit of God) hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 14In whom(The unity who directly unified with God through the Spirit of God) we have redemption…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 02 2011,21:59)Jesus was not the first creature created by God. He was the first of the creation of God to be born of God.Hi Marty,You seemed to have been trying to distinguish BETWEEN “born” and “created”.  I was showing you that those terms do not contradict each other.  You didn't address my point, so I'll ask it more c…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 03 2011,00:19)So when teaching his students before his crucifiction was Jesus teaching the teachings of a man or the teachings of God.Did his students therefore receive there teaching from a man or from God who spoke through the human being Jesus?Kerwin, if Paul was saying what you imply, then why say it at all?  If what you…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 02 2011,21:29)Hi:This is what the scriptures state:Quote 1Cr 15:21   For since by man death, by man also the resurrection of the dead. Sin entered by a man, and sin was atoned for, (and the resurrection was guaranteed), by a man.  Where does that say Jesus is STILL a man in heaven?Quote (942767 @ Aug. 02 2011,21:29)This is a…[Read more]

Yeah I know, Pierre.  Istari and Irene also believe that angels could manifest flesh bodies for their missions on earth.Although it is a popular belief, I haven't found any scriptural evidence for this.  Even Hollywood can make some pretty realistic aliens and zombies that look like flesh when they are really made of plastics.  Surely God could ca…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Aug. 03 2011,16:31)Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 04 2011,02:18)Paladin!  Maybe you are confused because you don't understand…..If you are confused who The Word of God is…..To which I responded…”I'm not “confused” Irene, YOU are stubborn. Please do not accuse me of confusion because of your stubbornness.”Now you come at me with…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 03 2011,08:22)Mike……..You still don't understand that you are running two different thing together two separate subjects. One the Person, the other the Persons Life they live.Great Gene.Now all you need is a scripture where Jesus actually says to hate your mother's LIFE.Let me know if you ever find one, okay?