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Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 11 years ago
@bodhitharta
Sorry I have been gone for awhile. To answer your last post…yes, the spiritual side is conscious and goes somewhere after it leaves the flesh upon the death of the flesh.God bless you Bo!
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years ago
The Father of the Son is NOT the Son He is the Father of. Jesus is the Son in truth and was always the Son in truth, not by designation.
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and GeneBalthrop only in the forum Debates 11 years ago
@GeneBalthrop
Hi Gene, sorry I have been away for awhile. So you think that when the Father said to Jesus, “Today I have begotten you” He meant that several years from then He will have begotten Him? If that were so, the Word of God called YHVH by the Jews in their Targums would not have existed in the beginning. We are plainly told that the Word…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and GeneBalthrop only in the forum Debates 11 years ago
@GeneBalthrop
Hi Gene, sorry I have been away for awhile. So you think that when the Father said to Jesus, “Today I have begotten you” He meant that several years from then He will have begotten Him? If that were so, the Word of God called YHVH by the Jews in their Targums would not have existed in the beginning. We are plainly told that the Word…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and GeneBalthrop only in the forum Debates 11 years ago
@GeneBalthrop
Hi Gene, sorry I have been away for awhile. So you think that when the Father said to Jesus, “Today I have begotten you” He meant that several years from then He will have begotten Him? If that were so, the Word of God called YHVH by the Jews in their Targums would not have existed in the beginning. We are plainly told that the Word…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
If Jesus is the LORD of your life, the spiritual side is not evil. If satan is lord of your life, the spiritual side is evil.
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
@t8
A MUST ANSWER QUESTION:Do you give all honor and praise to the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit above all others; and do you love them with all your heart, soul, and mind?
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and GeneBalthrop only in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
Now you are confusing begetting with the term pregnancy. The term pregnancy includes the act of conception and the act of begetting. Both conception and begetting happen in a moment. If begetting were a long process that began at conception and ended at birth, the Father would not say ‘Today, I have begotten you.’
Also, Jesus is a…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
Bo,
Think about how you have conflicting thoughts. A part of you might want to go see a thrilling yet very immoral movie, per se, but another part of you overrides that part and decides to go see a clean movie instead. Do you see how it is possible to wage war with your own thoughts? Our sinful nature will play tug of war with our spiritual…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
Bo,
That verse is focusing on the body of the person. In the casket, the body is brain dead…no thinking going on, and the body is already beginning to decay. That verse is not referring to the spirit of the person.
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and GeneBalthrop only in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
you said:
answer to your question is when the sperm of a man impregnates the egg of a women at that time he is begotten , the same with JESUS WHEN GOD THE FATHER INPREGNATED MARY WITH HIS DNA, JESUS WAS BEGOTTEN
You confuse birth with conception. The term ‘begotten’ refers to the birth.
As far as the rest of what you said, where…
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
Hi Bo,
The thoughts that perish are referring to their hopes and dreams and plans of theirs that they were having regarding their future on earth prior to their death. Obviously those plans cannot be carried out since they are dead.
Regarding your other question:
How about the spirits/souls who are not with Christ where are they?
Rev…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and GeneBalthrop only in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
@GeneBalthrop
The ‘today’ that the Son was begotten was likely on day one of the creation week. Jesus is the spiritual Light of the world and this spiritual Light brought forth was the beginning of the creation of God. Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God (Rev. 3:14), not as the first created thing but as the firstborn of all creation(Col…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
Sure, Bo, bring it!
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
@t8
It seems that you keep thinking that Christians are saying that the Father is God the Father, and Jesus is God the Father BUT that is not what is being said. Christians understand that there is Jehovah God the Father who is the God of gods AND Jehovah God the Son who is Lord of lords. The Son is part of the Father, a part that has the same…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
@bodhitharta
Yes, I am saying that those believers that have died according to their flesh, are alive in spirit with Christ in Paradise while their bodies are decaying or have decayed already. When the passage in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 says that the dead in Christ shall rise first, it is speaking about the bodies of believer’s which have decayed.…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
Bo,
From what I understand, a believer’s resurrection is done in two parts. Immediately upon the last breath in the body, the spirit departs to go to the LORD. Later, the body is raised imperishable.
1 Cor 15
42So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable; what is raised is imperishable. 43It is sown in dishonor; it is…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
Bo,
From what I understand, a believer’s resurrection is done in two parts. Immediately upon the last breath in the body, the spirit departs to go to the LORD. Later, the body is raised imperishable.
1 Cor 15
<span class=”reftext”><b>42</b></span>So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable; what is raised is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
Seems like you have no contest of what was last posted by me. It would be wise to accept this, t8 instead of hoping it will go away and be forgotten about, don’t you think?!
I am memorizing the first several verses in 2 Peter 1. This is a good verse, want to hide it in your heart too?
2 Peter 1:1
Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 11 years, 1 month ago
Seems like you has no contest of what was last posted. It would be wise to accept this, t8 instead of hoping it will go away and be forgotten about, don’t you think?!
I am memorizing the first several verses in 2 Peter 1. This is a good verse, want to hide it in your heart too?
2 Peter 1:1
Simeona Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus…[Read more]- Load More

