Hi Jael, we have both the Father and the Son in us. The Spirit of the Son intercedes for us to the Father. Romans 8

@Jael

Hello Jael and welcome,

I understand your concerns about a three person Godhead. I understand a Father/Son/Holy Spirit Godhead although I consider it two persons and their united spirit (which is their “inner person” within them and extends from them with omnipresent potential). So that would be two persons and their united inner…[Read more]

@t8

Hi there my friend,

I am going to assume that you understand the words that the Father spoke “Today I have begotten thee” refer to the day of the resurrection since you haven’t disputed this.

I also assume that you would agree that the begettal referred to in regards to that resurrection day, was a “work” of the Father. I think that is…[Read more]

@t8

I will answer your question but first there is a question of mine to you that you need to answer. That question is this:

Can you see that, t8? This is NOT a piece of scripture that you can successfully use to show that there was a time when the Son did not exist.

It is in regards to the piece of scripture that you recently used as a support…[Read more]

@t8 Bump

Interested in your reply, t8.

@t8

T8, you said:

May I remind you that the Father can exist without a son

None of your arguments have proving that the Father DID exist without a Son. Even your scripture that you put in your post. I have given you a word picture to show how it is possible that the Father and Son eternally could have co-existed and still be truly Father and S…[Read more]

@WorshippingJesus

Hi Keith,

Nice to hear that you and your wife are doing well and back home by your family. Thank you for the nice compliment towards the debate between t8 and myself. It may be about 4 years long but it has been months since I posted on there. That is a nice thing about a one on one conversation, it can be picked up on where we…[Read more]

@WorshippingJesus

Hi Keith,

Nice to hear that you and your wife are doing well and back home by your family. Thank you for the nice compliment towards the debate between t8 and myself. It may be over 4 years long but it has been months since I posted on there. That is a nice thing about a one on one conversation, it can be picked up on where we…[Read more]

Hi t8,

I just read your last post. I hope you are doing well. I have read in other topics where you have tried to tell people that I believe in two Gods but that does not give the accurate FULLNESS of what I believe. Maybe if I use the word “facet” in my description, you would find it easier to understand, so here goes…

Think about a single…[Read more]

T-that is where your understanding is sour. You think born means created. You were born and before you were born, you existed for several months within your mother in a living manner. You were kicking, moving, digesting, etc. Do you understand that you cannot come to the conclusion that the Son was created from the term firstborn.

Great T. Now how do you understand “firstborn” as applied to the Son? Do you understand it to mean first created or first born?

Yes Nick, I think we can call the Father and the Son “persons” because it helps to explain how we understand them. Perhaps you need clarification as to how I would define “person.” My definition: a distinct, indivisible entity containing a body (spirit form or physical form), and also a mind, will and emotions, which posesses the ability to think…[Read more]

T-Do you believe that Jesus, before creation, was created and thus a creation OR was He brought forth as an actual offspring and the same type of being as the one who beget Him?

Hi Kerwin and terraricca, nice to see you.

T-regarding your question, scripture wouldn’t change. Your understanding of scripture would change.

Nick you also asked:

Hi LU,

When I speak of the Father and the Son it is as Spirit.

God is spirit -and the Word was with God and was God.

The Word was made flesh -Jesus Christ came in the flesh.

Nick, Jesus became flesh, do not say that Jesus “came in the flesh”. There is a difference.

More from Nick:

Hi LU,

Do you agree that Jesus of Nazareth was a man found fit to be a vessel for the Spirit?

Do you believe that in the one Spirit God and His Son can indwell those who follow Jesus into this anointing?

Nick, where in the scriptures do you see that Jesus was a “vessel for the Spirit?” Please show me this phrase so I can…[Read more]

More from Nick:

Hi LU,

Do you agree that Jesus of Nazareth was a man found fit to be a vessel for the Spirit?

Do you believe that in the one Spirit God and His Son can indwell those who follow Jesus into this anointing?

 

Nick, where in the scriptures do you see that Jesus was a “vessel for the Spirit?” Please show me this phrase so I can…

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@nickhassan

Hi Nick, Thanks for the welcome back.

you said:

Hi LU,

Welcome back.

My feeling is that we should not apply human concepts to what happens in the spiritual realm.

We should not follow the samples and of others because we fear God

God does not call Himself a PERSON.

It is a theological term men have applied rather dangerously to…

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Hello everybody,

@Mikeboll64

Mike wrote: The Greek word “monogenes” is from the Greek word “monos”, meaning “alone, one, only”……. and the Greek word “ginomai”, meaning “generated, came into existence, created, made”. Strong says “ginomai” is: a prolongation and middle voice form of a primary verb; to cause to be (“gen”-erate), i.e. (reflex…

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Hi Bo, I hope you are well. Have you ever asked God to show you who Jesus is in a dream? Watch this:

http://m.christianpost.com/news/report-isis-fighter-who-enjoyed-killing-christians-wants-to-follow-jesus-after-dreaming-of-man-in-white-who-told-him-you-are-killing-my-people-139880/