t8

I agree with Paul who tells us our God and our Lord are two entities, Father and Son. 1 Cor 8:6

Unless you believe that YHVH is not both God and Lord, then you will too come to understand that the Father and the Son are both YHVH in unity.

Jesus is the only son ontologically. We will never be. We are adopted. It is like saying that Jesus is…[Read more]

Gene,

We agree that we bow our knee to Jesus and call Him Lord to the glory of God his Father. What we don’t agree on is that YHVH is both God and Lord-two entities. Christians recognize that YHVH is both Father and Son-two entities. YHVH is one, a unity of two entities. Their Holy Spirit is their spirit that is united and extends from them while…[Read more]

@Jael

Hi Jael,

Did you realize that ontology has to do with the nature of a being and not their gender or their office?

The son of a human type of being would be another human type of being

The son of a particular animal, lets say a horse for example, would be another horse…and so on.

Jesus is clearly identified as the only begotten Son of…[Read more]

@t8

It has been almost a month since I posted my response to your post. Are you beginning to understand that you don’t have sufficient arguments to support your opinion that the Son wasn’t eternal in the past?

@kerwin

@GeneBalthrop

Do you plan on changing body type after you die and go on to everlasting life? Specifically, you have an earthly body now, are you hoping to have a heavenly body someday which is different than the one you have now? If so, how will it be different?

@kerwin

The spirit and soul of the Son is what would have taken on flesh. The spirit and soul had always existed, imo.

@NickHassan

you said:

God raised HIS SERVANT according to Acts 3.

Does this fit with your two god theory?

Absolutely!

@kerwin

What do you believe qualified the Son to take away the sins of mankind?

@NickHassan

You’re welcome! The word “Lord” is used towards Jesus in 3 different ways in the NT.

#1 as “sir”

#2 as “master/king”

#3 as the divine Lord.

Jesus, according to His flesh was made both Lord (#2) and Christ. David called Him Lord because He was his promised descendant to sit on the throne of David in the eternal kingdom.

@kerwin

you said:

The flaw here is that this just as broken as implying God can be tempted by evil as a being is either one kind of another not two kinds at one therefore Jesus is either 1) human as Scripture states, God, or a hybrid but not both the God kind and the human kind.

The eternal spirit of the Son indwells a flesh body which he…[Read more]

@NickHassan

Revelation 17:14

“These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those who are with Him are the called and chosen and faithful.”

@kerwin

Ezekial 18:20“The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son’s iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself.

@GeneBalthrop

God in the fullest sense is a unity of two divine beings. One is not just divine but also became man. He cannot be limited by what is limited to someone who is just man or who is just God.

If He were just man, then His death couldn’t not take away the sins of another man according to scripture. If He was just God, He couldn’t…[Read more]

@GeneBalthrop

God in the fullest sense is a unity of two divine beings. One is not just divine but also man so He cannot be limited by what is limited to someone who is just man.

If He were just man, then His death couldn’t not take away the sins of another man according to scripture.

@kerwin

The God cannot be tempted by evil.

The God/Man can.

Jesus is not just God. He became man also.

@Jael

Hi Jael,

You asked:

Hi LU, can you (or anyone) explain to me what ‘a begotten God’ is?

In my understanding, GOD is one… ‘A begotten God’ would be ‘A’nother God.

In fact, what exactly does the name, title or term, ‘God’ mean?

A central truth of the gospel is that Jesus is the only begotten son of God. I believe that He really is the onl…[Read more]

Nick, you completely miss that the Son is truly a son and who was in the beginning with God the Father and was God with the Father. Together they are God of gods and Lord of lords. That One who is the Lord of lords who laid the foundation of the earth and spread out the heavens with His hands, is the same one who emptied Himself to become flesh,…[Read more]

@NickHassan

Nick, true, the Son is not the Father, and my post doesn’t suggest that He is.

In Isaiah 8, the LORD of hosts who is the stone of stumbling is not the LORD who is speaking. He is someone other than the one who is speaking to Isaiah. The Father is not sent as the stone of stumbling, the Father is not the cornerstone of the spiritual…[Read more]

@kerwin

I don’t see anything from you except opinion. I have given you many scriptures that defend YHVH as two who are one, the Father and the Son. You don’t seem to have the faith to see that the Lord of lords who is with the God of gods as YHVH could become flesh, resist temptation, walk rightly, suffer and die and be resurrected (for you and…[Read more]

@NickHassan

Peter identifies Jesus as the stone of stumbling written about in scripture. In the OT scripture referred to, the Lord God calls the Lord of Hosts the stone of stumbling. See that here:

1 Peter 2:4 regarding Jesus as a living stone.

4And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in…[Read more]