@t8

You seem to believe that attributes, when begotten of God become living entites who are referred to as sons of God. You seem to believe that the difference between Jesus and all the other sons of God is that he was the first to be begotten before all the other sons. You seem to say that it was the act of ‘begetting’ that made him a son. Is…[Read more]

@t8

You seem to believe that attributes, when begotten of God become living entites who are referred to as sons of God. You seem to believe that the difference between Jesus and all the other sons of God is that he was the first to be begotten before all the other sons. You seem to say that it was the act of ‘begetting’ that made him a son. Is…[Read more]

@t8

you said ( I added the letters a,b,c):

a.No mention of the fullness of God here and my words that you say are wrong are spot on with your above quote and many others. That was just the first one I came across without wasting too much time.

b.But let’s say that you meant to say (all along) that you are not talking about God having members, b…

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@jael

you asked:
LU, where do you see anything from me about a mistake concerning Proverbs.

It was when you gave the ESV as the translation that you quoted from for Proverbs 8:22 but you misquoted which gave it a whole different meaning.

You also asked:

LU, Jesus is a man, born holy and sinless by means of the overshadowing of a virgin (Mary) by…

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@t8

Nice try but you still aren’t grasping what I’m trying to tell you.

I think this is what you think I am telling you:

God = 1 Father + 1 Son

However, this is what I am saying:

The fullness of God = 1 Father + 1 Son, in unity, as God (Father) and Lord (Son). Their Holy Spirit is the unity of their personal spirits that extends from them…[Read more]

@jael

Well, is that your way of admitting that you were indeed wrong with your quote of Proverbs 8:22? You simply dismiss it and not admit it. Also, learn about Hebrew words and their genders regarding terms like life and soul for instance.

@jael

Well, is that your way of admitting that you were indeed wrong with your quote of Proverbs 8:22? You simply dismiss it and not admit it. Also, learn about Hebrew words and their genders. This should be eye opening for you if you care to see:…[Read more]

@jael

Colossians 1:15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him. 17He is before all things, and in Him all things hold t…[Read more]

@t8

You speak to Jael as if you agree with him and his theology. Seriously? He doesn’t even believe in the pre-existence of Christ.

Also, you speak as if I am alone in my beliefs even when the Nicene Creed is what I believe in. Is that wise? Do you think I wrote the Nicene Creed? Do you really believe that I invented that creed? How silly. I’m…[Read more]

@t8

You speak to Jael as if you agree with him and his theology. Seriously? He doesn’t even believe in the pre-existence of Christ.

Also, you speak as if I am alone in my beliefs even when the Nicene Creed is what I believe in. Is that wise? Do you think I wrote the Nicene Creed? Do you really believe that I invented that creed? How silly. I’m…[Read more]

@jael

you said a bunch of wrong asumptions here:

a.You seem to think that we live by the Nicene Creed. No, Lu, WE (I) DO NOT.

b.You see no credit given to God for raising Christ: ‘He rose again on the third day’, as if he did so of himself!! This because the creed would have to explain how Jesus is God but had to be raised by someone GREATER – t…

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@jael

you said a bunch of wrong asumptions here:

a.You seem to think that we live by the Nicene Creed. No, Lu, WE (I) DO NOT.

b.You see no credit given to God for raising Christ: ‘He rose again on the third day’, as if he did so of himself!! This because the creed would have to explain how Jesus is God but had to be raised by someone GREATER – t…

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@jael

You are so confused.

you said:

Since trinitarians and JiG’s believe they are all the ONE PERSON…

Trinitarians believe they are three persons. You don’t even seem to know the basics of the trinity doctrine yet you debate it? Is that wise?

@jael

Seriously, you can’t see it?

you asked:

LU, read biblehub: “English Standard Version
“The LORD possessed me , the first of his acts of old.” (my brackets)

Where is my ‘misquote’?

Here is your original quote:

Suffice it to say that ‘an eternal son’ does not match with ‘possessed me as the first of his works’.

Those two quotes of yours a…[Read more]

@jael

you asked:

Lu, are you saying Jesus created mankind?

The unity of God made mankind of which the Father, Son and their Spirit are part of.

Genesis 1 25God made the beasts of the earth after their kind, and the cattle after their kind, and everything that creeps on the ground after its kind; and God saw that it was good. 26Then God said, “L…[Read more]

@jael

you said:

God is not a man’…that you should equate human fatherhood with the Spirit of God as Father.

Do human fathers have eternal sons within them? No. I am not equating the fatherhood of God to human fatherhood at all. Think…

Regarding Jesus as the second Adam…simply put…the One through whom the first Adam was created became par…[Read more]

@t8

There are those who are in the unity of God, i.e, the Father, Son, and their Holy Spirit…and there are those who are in unity because of their common faith IN the unity of God. All will take their part within the kingdom of God. There will be the unity of worshipers in the kingdom of God and there will be the unity of God which is the…[Read more]

@t8

I noticed that you seem to be unsure that Jesus is the Word of God from what you said here and I noticed that you did not understand what the early church father is saying regarding the Son of God. I would like to help you out here in these regards…

This is what you said:

if Jesus is the Word that was with God etc, this does not make him…

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@t8  @jael

Well, well…interesting to read your thoughts about what I believe while misquoting me, twisting my words, etc. Are ya’ll trying to do this on purpose for some strange satisfaction? Is that wise or does that show a lack? For instance, let me start with some of Jael’s comments:

Jael, you said:

She thinks of the PHYSICAL (fleshly)…

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@AndrewAD

You wrote:

In these verses we see it’s the Father who reveals the Son,and the Son who reveals the Father so this shows their unity and interdependence. Jesus also says no man comes to the Father but by me,and no man can come to me except the Father draw him,I and the Father are one,if you’ve seen me you’ve seen the Father.We can thank…

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