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    Nick,

    you said:

    So his kingdom is not everlasting in the future either.

    A Nick made theology perhaps?

    2 Peter 1:10Therefore, brethren, be all the more diligent to make certain about His calling and choosing you; for as long as you practice these things, you will never stumble; 11for in this way the entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    you said:

    Neither “lord of lords” nor “king of kings “are necessarily exclusive terms.

    Well, put it to the test..Jesus is the everlasting Lord and the everlasting King, His kingdom is not of this world, He is the Lord of the Sabboth, He is the Lord of all, He and the Father receive the same glory and honor and praise.

    Ask a devout Jew who…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    Ephesians 4:4 4There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all.

    This is what I believe.

    One body = the true church

    One Spirit = the Holy Spirit

    One Lord = Jesus

    One baptism = the baptism…[Read more]

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    Hi miia,

    I was glad to see that parachute open…wow! Anyway, I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt especially when they boldly declare their faith in the LORD. Not only is the astronaut a Christian declaring his faith but also lived on the space station and sailed the seas in the navy. He must be courageous to be in the Navy for 30…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Mark 13:34 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years ago

    Nick,

    That would be a good case for studying what those early servants were teaching!

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    Mike,

    Jehovah the Lord of lords, i.e., the Only begotten Son is NOT an angel in type. He took part in creating the angels. Col 1. If it weren’t for Him, there would be no angels. He and the Father are the “us”.

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    A Christian astronaut’s addresses the shape of the earth.

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    Mike,

    you asked:

    What exactly were you agreeing with? 🙂  Anna didn’t actually say anything.

    This is what I was agreeing with…she has only made two comments, this was her first. You must have missed it.

    “No such thing as flat earth.”-Anna

    And yes, I did mean round as in spherical, not flat and round obviously.

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    Hi Nick,

    you said:

    When Jesus Christ walked in Israel the Jews cried out that God has visited his people.

    They were right because God was in him reconciling the world to Himself.

    Yes, you can see that the God of gods is never separate from the Lord of lords, Nick. The God of gods, the Father, was in the Messiah who is Jehovah the Lord of lords.…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    I believe you violate these verses when you say there are other gods “by design”:

    Deuteronomy 4:35
    “To you it was shown that you might know that the LORD, He is God; there is no other besides Him.

    Deuteronomy 32:39
    ‘See now that I, I am He, And there is no god besides Me; It is I who put to death and give life. I have wounded and it is I…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    Jehovah, God Almighty is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, both the Father and the Son. When the Almighty God is seen by men, it is the Son, our Lord of lords (Jehovah our Righteousness.) No man has seen the Father.

    Genesis 35:5As they journeyed, there was a great terror upon the cities which were around them, and they did not pursue…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    you said:

    I assume they are included in Psalm 8:5, Psalm 82:1, etc. Why, do you think only certain spirit sons of God are gods, while others are not? Surely you don’t think that Satan, Ashtoreth, Chemosh, and Milcom – who are all called gods by Jehovah (each of the last three He calls “elohim”) – are really gods, but faithful servants…

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    Hi Mike,

    you said:

    Yes, that’s right… except that not all of them fell. Many of them like Michael and Gabriel remain faithful to their Creator.

    I do not recall Michael or Gabriel being referred to as a god. What scripture specifically tell us that?

    you said:

    Born, begotten, made, brought into existence, created, etc.  They all require the exis…

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    Hi Gene,

    Good questions. You asked me to address this:

    Lu….If God were to speak through you, would that make you a God? God said this, “God is “not” a man, that he should lie, nor a “son of man” that he should repent. Jesus on the other hand said he was a “son of man” over 50 times.

    No, God speaking through us would not make me or anyone a God. O…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick,

    Perhaps you have one definition of the word “person” and I have another. I understand God as a person because He describes Himself as having a mind, will, and emotions, and the ability to create. He also speaks in a first person manner and uses personal pronouns when referring to Himself. Maybe your definition is more specific to…[Read more]

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    Nick you seem to accept that there is one God the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ and you seem to understand them to be two persons, not one. The OT tells us that Jehovah is both God and Lord…that is two persons, one God and one Lord. The one God is not God apart from the one Lord and the one Lord is not Lord apart from the one God. The two…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick,

    I understand 2 Cor 5:19 as Jehovah, God of gods (the Father) was reconciling us to Himself through the work of Jehovah, Lord of lords, His Son, who emptied Himself and took on flesh, became man, completed His mission which He was sent to do, fulfilling the prophecies concerning the Messiah so that we could be reconciled to Him.

    I…[Read more]

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    I agree with you Anna, it can’t be both flat and round. Welcome to HN!

    Blessings, LU

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    Hi Nick,

    Jehovah our Righteousness, the Lord of lords did enter into His creation and become a man. It is truly amazing to think about how much He and His Father care for us. You deny this and miss out on so much, Nick. Ask Jehovah to show you if Jesus is Jehovah our Righteousness, the Lord of lords or not. Ask with an open heart and let the Spirit speak.

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    Hi miia, glad to know that you are doing better…

    Blessings, LU

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