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    Nick,

    I’m glad you realize this, finally.

    You should no longer say that Jesus was born again at the Jordan.

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    Gene,

    Can you call Jesus “Jehovah our Righteousness?”

    Realize that when Jehovah is two, both Father and Son, and the Father has authority over the Son (which would show a perfect relationship, not an inferiority), then the Son would naturally receive authority from the Father.

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    Gene,

    You said:

    SHOW me the scripture that says Jesus is JEHOVAH.

    Jeremiah 23:
    5Behold, the days come, saith Jehovah, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and he shall reign as king and deal wisely, and shall execute justice and righteousness in the land.
    6In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely; and this is…[Read more]

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    No problem Miia. I don’t remember posting anything that required a response anyway.

    Take care,

    LU

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    Gene,

    you asked:

    Show one scripture of any activity of Jesus before his berth on this earth.

    How about a chapter?

    Genesis 18:
    1And Jehovah appeared unto him by the oaks of Mamre, as he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; 2and he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood over against him: and when he saw them, he ran to…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    You wrote:

    Acts 2.37

    Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles

    ’Brethren what shall we do?’

    Peter said to them

    ”Repent and each of you be baptised in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promi…

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    Nick,

    you said:

    Acts 10.36

    The Word which was sent to the sons of Israel, preaching peace through Jesus Christ ( he is Lord of all)

    Was he always?

    Acts 2.36

    Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ-this Jesus whom you crucified.

    Yes, the Son has always been Lord of all ever since all…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    you said:

    God requires witnesses to our belief.

    That is the purpose of this thread, Nick. I have presented you with those witnesses. Where are yours?

     

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    Mike,

    you said:

    And Kathi can’t even bring herself to show up here and discuss the things I’ve presented.

    I have responded here Mike and even gave you the video of a guy that has lived on the space station. So, don’t be dissing me. I gave this some time and I am believing the astronaut that confesses Jesus as Lord as well as the earth being rou…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    Do you believe that it is the act of the Holy Spirit descending on man that causes one to be reborn from above? Or is it belief in Jesus as Lord that causes one to be reborn? In other words, is the act of the Holy Spirit descending on someone making someone born again or is that to empower and seal the believer who is already born…[Read more]

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    NIck,

    you said: He was reborn from above at the Jordan showing us the way we should follow.

    Where does Jesus claim to be “reborn from above?”

    To quote you: “Should we add to what is revealed?”

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    Nick,

    you said: Jesus said we could be one with himself and the Father in Jn 17.

    By your understanding we will become God?

    That shows me that you do not understand my understanding. Jehovah is not God of gods and Lord of lords…and someday Nick or Gene or t8 or Mike or me or any created thing. Jehovah is God of gods and Lord of lords, the Father…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    you asked:

    Should we add to what is revealed and say there are beings in God or apply other Greek logical derivations to scripture.

    Could we still claim to be preaching the truth if we do so? Is that not going too far? 2jn9

    No, we shouldn’t add to what is revealed, Nick. Scripture reveals Jehovah is both God of gods and Lord of lords in…[Read more]

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    Gene,

    You asked:

    What you and some others, teach about Jesus being a GOD as GOD IS GOD, does not seem to agree with that LU. Because if Jesus were a True God as God is GOD, HE WOULD BE THE ONE DOING IT ALL “HIMSELF”, RIGHT?

    Your statement there indicates that you do not understand what people who believe in the one God as more than one per…[Read more]

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    Gene,

    you said to Nick: Yes to us “there is but “ONE” GOD, ONE MEDERATOR BETWEEN THAT GOD AND MAN “THE MAN” JESUS THE CHRIST. How simple, how clear, how can anyone misunderstand that?

    That “man” Jesus Christ is the Lord of lords, Jehovah our Righteousness. It was fitting for Him to be the mediator between the Father and the creation since He…[Read more]

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    Yes the SPIRIT OF THE SON (gal4.6) is from eternity.

    In order for that to be true, the Son who possesses that spirit would have to be from eternity as well. The Lord of lords, Jehovah our Righteousness, was from eternity past.

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    Gene,

    you said:

    LU…When Jesus the saints will be resurected and he and the saints will by the spirit of God establish his kingdom on this earth, and at the end of the thousand year rule, Jesus turns over the kingdom to God the Father, Just as scripture say, and Jesus himself will become subject to the kingdom just as everyone else will be.

    The S…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    you asked:

    Does God call Himself a BEING or is that from theology?

    His name I AM declares that He exists which is a form of the state of “being” verbs. It is not due to theology. You can call Him a being, Nick.

    N: It was s going too far to say Jesus is God- he made no such claim.

    Did He claim to be Lord of lords, Nick? Not directly. Is it…[Read more]

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    Nick you asked:

    But you do agree it will be handed back to the Father?

    From what I can tell, from the time of Jesus’ return to the Father from the dead, the Son was given all reign over everything except the Father in order to destroy all enemy powers including death. The Father “turned over the reigns” to the Son so to speak. The Father had the…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    you asked:

    What made you think from what I said that the KINGDOM was not everlasting?

    You words Nick:

    “So his kingdom is not everlasting in the future either.”

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