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    Hi Dig4truth,

    No problem about taking your time, it is the way things get addressed here sometimes.

    you said:

    Hi Lightenup, I did see the post. I even went back to test it with Scripture. Unfourtunatly it didn’t hold up as far as I can tell although I’m sure there is a spiritual aspect to it. Sorry I didn’t get back to it soone…

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    Jodi,

    I can tell you put a lot of time in your posts. I handle little bits at a time, please be patient with me. If I don’t address something in particular that you have asked, please draw my attention to it.

    For this post, I, once again will address Hebrews 11:17. I am completely aware that Isaac is the second son born to Abraham and the first…[Read more]

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    To all FE-ers,

    So, I am wanting to know that you FE-ers have seen this post I made but quickly got covered up without anyone acknowledging. It destroys your ideas about the pillars that support the earth.

    Hopefully this will shed some light on what it means that the earth has pillars to stand on:

    from: http://www.aish.com/sp/pg/48884852.html

    P…

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    Jodi,

    Due to what you said, I am wondering who you think the “him” is?

    16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things c…

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    Jodi,

    you asked:

    Hebrews 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

    Wait a minute, Isaac was not Abraham’s only son at this time, why is he called “only begotten”?

    People have struggled with this because they don’t understand that this verse is talki…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    you said: Yes God manifested to Abraham by His Spirit in the three angelic beings.

    Why do you think you should add to scripture? I don’t see those words anywhere in the chapter.

     

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    Jodi,

    you asked:

    Ah okay I just read your next post and see what you are trying to say. So to you sometimes in the OT it is the Father speaking and at other times it is the Son? Or is it both of the speaking together? Or maybe they are at times talking separately and other times together?

    Yes, context will help determine who is speaking.

    For…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    I am sure you would be less confused if you would know whether the word translated as “Lord” is the Hebrew word for Yahweh/Jehovah. It is easy to check this in the to look at the Hebrew/English interlinear tool. I will post the same verses that you put up and show you that Jehovah is being referred to as merely Lord in your verses. Same…[Read more]

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    Nick said:

    God raised His Son, Jesus Christ.

    God spoke through him in Jn 2

    The Father did raise the Son’s body to life but the Son raised his risen body to heaven to the Father. Both events happened to be on the third day, Nick. When God does something through someone, look for the grammar to be in the passive voice. When the person themselves do…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick,

    The God of gods (the Father) is in heaven, true. However the Lord of lords (the Son) has been descending and ascending from and back to heaven. Jehovah is both the God of gods (the Father) AND the Lord of lords (the Son).

    Philemon 1:3

    Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, Nick,

    LU

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    Nick,

    you said:

    Hi LU,

    And his name shall be called Immanuel meaning God with us.

    But he was never CALLED Immanuel as a man.

    neither is he God our righteousness.

    God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself.

    Throughout the OT, you will see indications of God being with “us” as he wrestled with Jacob, talked and ate with Abraham, looked…[Read more]

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    Jodi,

    you said:

    Or what you say,

    the days come, saith Jesus, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch (myself)

    Paul gives further proof that Jehovah is the Father…

    I’m saying that Jehovah is the God of gods (the Father) and the Lord of lords (the Son). The Son tells us that they are One. Scripture tells us that Jesus is the Lord of…[Read more]

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    Jodi,

    you said:

    Lightenup you are going to have to tell us that Jesus raised himself from the dead, to keep in line with what you are trying to make Jeremiah 23 say!!

    Jodi, where does Jesus tell us that he was going to raise himself “from the dead?” I know that he said that in three days he would raise up the temple, meaning his body.

    Are you…[Read more]

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    Hopefully this will shed some light on what it means that the earth has pillars to stand on:

    from: http://www.aish.com/sp/pg/48884852.html

    Pillars Of Our Mishnah

    In our Mishnah, Shimon HaTzaddik declares that the world stands on three things: Torah, service , and acts of human kindness.

    So, the three pillars on which the world stands are:

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    So Nick,

    You cannot call Jesus “Jehovah our Righteousness.” Someday even your knee will bow and your tongue will confess this, that Jesus Christ is Jehovah, to the glory of His Father.

    Right now, your confession is that Jesus is an ascended human master, one who has ascended higher than any other human master. That is in line with New Age…[Read more]

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    Nick,

    Again…do you realize that the Father is not ruling through the Son since He was given all authority in heaven and on earth after the resurrection?

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    Nick,

    you wrote:

    …and this s the name by which HE WILL BE CALLED,

    The Lord, our righteousness.

    Do you realize that the “Lord” is the translation of the Hebrew word “Yahweh” there? In other words, a better translation is that He will be called Yahweh (Jehovah) our Righteousness?

    Also, do you realize that the Father is not ruling through the…

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    So Nick,

    Thank you for your questions.

    I have a bigger picture now on the whole Nicodemus, born again message as I dig into it more. I think the conversation between Nicodemus and Jesus is about confessing the message in John 3:16-21 openly, boldly, in front of people, even the Pharisees. The story starts out with Nicodemus (a Pharisee) coming…[Read more]

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    Gene,

    Gene, can you say that Jesus is Jehovah our Righteousness? Please simply answer this question directly.

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    Hi Gene,

    I’m gonna try to show you the actual Hebrew of that verse that tells us that Jesus will be called Jehovah (Yahweh) our Righteousness. Look for the word YAHWEH. Go to this link

    http://biblehub.com/interlinear/jeremiah/23-6.htm

    Blessings, LU

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