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Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
T8,
Thanks for the video. That was terrific, simple and clear. The earth is a globe!
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 12 months ago
Nick,
you asked:
s the vine more alike
To the Gardener,
or
To the branches?
Philippians 2:5And reason in your souls this that also Yeshua The Messiah did: 6He who, while he was in the form of God, did not esteem this as a prize, that he was the equal of God, 7But he stripped himself and took the form of a Servant and was in the form of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 12 months ago
Nick,
You said:
n the verses you offered from Jer 23 the word JEHOVAH OCCURS 6 times.
In your mind do they all reference the SON OF GOD.?
If not how do you tell which God is meant?
Here is the passage in question:
Jeremiah 23:1Woe unto the shepherds that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith Jehovah. 2Therefore thus saith Jehovah,…
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Mike you quoted me and then responded:
Kathi: Also, Mike, I don’t know if you remember but I believe that day one of creation has to do in part by bringing forth the Son as the firstborn of all creation, begotten, not made…the Light of the world.
Yeah, I commented on your first post about that. I said that the words “Let there be” in G…
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Mike,
What day were the third heavens made? Do you know?
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Also, Mike, I don’t know if you remember but I believe that day one of creation has to do in part by bringing forth the Son as the firstborn of all creation, begotten, not made…the Light of the world. The Light that sustained the upcoming creation was/is the Son and the Father…ultimately, no need for the sun to exist in order to sustain life,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Mike,
Regarding Astronaut Chris and his less than perfect wording, that’s all I believe it was. I still got the point and the context was that the ISS was in space talking to students in CA which was across the States from where the students were. I’m sure my sentences aren’t always clear. If I forget a comma, then you might think I’m calling one…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Here Mike and all,
This video should help learn about the ISS:
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Hi Dig4truth,
You wrote this:
The text also makes it clear that it was a day and not a “stage”. Remember, He speaks to us in terms we can understand and He doesn’t lie. If He said it is a day then it cannot be two days or a thousand years.
Please notice the use of the word day that you claim must mean one day:
4This is the account of the heave…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 12 months ago
Nick,
Yes, the God of gods AND the Lord of lords are Jehovah, the everlasting light.
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 12 months ago
Jodi,
you said:
You should take some time and read the history behind the Nicene council, Constantine, and the other councils that followed. They hated Judaism with a passion. This is why they changed Passover to Easter, this is why they CHANGED the Sabbath day to Sunday, and excommunicated people who kept the Sabbath from the commandment in the…
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 12 months ago
Nick,
you said:
God is not the lamp but is the light and His Spirit is the oil.
Isaiah 60:19 The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but Jehovah will be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory.
Rev 21:23 and the city hath no need of the sun, nor of the moon, that they…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Is that a spotting of the ISS that Mike doesn’t believe exists? Perhaps you missed this video, Mike.
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
About that ISS that Mike says doesn’t exist…it can be seen by the naked eye, apparently. How can a non-existent thing be seen during it’s orbit, Mike??
The International Space Station (ISS) is a habitable artificial satellite in low orbit (205 to 270 miles) above the Earth, completing 15.54 orbits per day. Its first component launched into or…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Mike,
Regarding the video of the student asking astronaut Chris Cassidy about his high school days, the student was in California. California was where the astronauts were on the call to, not from.
See how things can get all twisted when taken out of context. If you realized that the student was located at the Riverside Preparatory Academy in…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 12 months ago
Jodi,
you said:
To be begotten also literally means to be born, or brought forth, from not existing to then be existing through something or someone else.
Did the Son not exist before He was begotten from the dead? If He did in fact exist before He was begotten from the dead, then your statement above is incorrect. Obviously, the Son existed…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 12 months ago
Jodi,
you wrote:
Scripture tells us however the following,
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
I do not disagree that the Son became a man and that action was foreknown and predestined. When it was predestined, the Son was no…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 12 months ago
Jodi,
you asked:
Lightenup please tell me how the word firstborn does not literal mean to be born first among another or others? You have your firstborn child or you have your ONLY CHILD. Jesus would be called only child.
The term “firstborn” would literally mean that no sibling was born before them, not that there was or wasn’t a sibling born…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Well, I’m just going to throw this out there regarding the light that existed before day four of creation…
There always was the Light of God in existence. I’m not speaking of a created light but the Light which would be always existent as contained by God.
Can it be possible that God made within Himself an empty space which He intended to…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 12 months ago
Hi Nick,
you said:
So you can address God and His Son as your brothers?
Father forgive them for they know not what they are doing.
If Jehovah our Righteousness is not your brother, then you need to open your heart to meet Him, Nick.
Jeremiah 23:1Woe unto the shepherds that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith Jehovah. 2Therefore…
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