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Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
Regarding the video of the student asking astronaut Chris Cassidy about his high school days, the student was in California. California was where the astronauts were on the call to, not from.
See how things can get all twisted when taken out of context. If you realized that the student was located at the Riverside Preparatory Academy in…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Jodi,
you said:
To be begotten also literally means to be born, or brought forth, from not existing to then be existing through something or someone else.
Did the Son not exist before He was begotten from the dead? If He did in fact exist before He was begotten from the dead, then your statement above is incorrect. Obviously, the Son existed…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Jodi,
you wrote:
Scripture tells us however the following,
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
I do not disagree that the Son became a man and that action was foreknown and predestined. When it was predestined, the Son was no…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Jodi,
you asked:
Lightenup please tell me how the word firstborn does not literal mean to be born first among another or others? You have your firstborn child or you have your ONLY CHILD. Jesus would be called only child.
The term “firstborn” would literally mean that no sibling was born before them, not that there was or wasn’t a sibling born…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Well, I’m just going to throw this out there regarding the light that existed before day four of creation…
There always was the Light of God in existence. I’m not speaking of a created light but the Light which would be always existent as contained by God.
Can it be possible that God made within Himself an empty space which He intended to…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Hi Nick,
you said:
So you can address God and His Son as your brothers?
Father forgive them for they know not what they are doing.
If Jehovah our Righteousness is not your brother, then you need to open your heart to meet Him, Nick.
Jeremiah 23:1Woe unto the shepherds that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith Jehovah. 2Therefore…
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Nick,
you asked:
Jesus is happy to call us his brothers (and sisters).
But he is God to you?
It is a wonderful thing to have a brother/sister relationship with Jehovah our Righteousness.
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Jodi,
you wrote:
1 Corinthians 8: 5 yet for us there is but ONE God, the Father, FROMwhom all things CAME and for whom we exist, and there is but one master, Jesus the MAN anointed with the Set Apart Spirit, THROUGH whom all things CAME and through whom we exist.
The above passage tells us that the ONE TRUE GOD the Father created the world, and…
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Jodi,
you said:
The Jesus here is specifically identified not as a pre-existing son, but as the MAN that was crucified.
1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies…
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Jodi,
you mentioned:
We are told that JESUS was MADE into a lord and was MADE into the Christ, and it was done by God, and there is ONE God the FATHER.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Yes, Jesus is made Lord and Christ by the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Jodi,
you asked:
Here we see that there is but ONE GOD (theos, meaning a god), and He is SOLELY IDENTIFIED AS THE FATHER, and then the passage says that there is but one lord (kurios, meaning master) and this master is identified as Jesus THE CHRIST (meaning the MAN anointed with the Set Apart Spirit of the FATHER).
Jehovah is both God and L…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Jodi,
you asked:
And if he is firstborn becoming part of Jehovah does that mean that the church will also be called Jehovah?
So when Jesus was a mortal did Jehovah DIE, and then did Jehovah come back to life when Jesus was raised from the dead?He is not the “firstborn becoming part of Jehovah.” You can’t BECOME Jehovah. The very meaning of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Jodi,
you asked ( the numbers are from me):
1.Why was Jesus not perfect when he was mortal, but had to become perfected?
2.As I already asked, if Jesus was perfect before, then why didn’t God just skip mortality and make others of his kind?
3.Oh but wait Adam and Eve were immortal, but they were not perfect, they sinned, so it is not i…Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
You’re welcom, t8. His name is Astronaut Barry E. Wilmore. Here is a write up on him if interested, its pretty impressive:
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Jodi,
you said:
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might BE the firstborn among many brethren.
Colossons 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:…18 And h…
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Jodi,
you said:
When it says that Jehovah rained upon Sodom and Gomorrah or Jehovah did this or that, He did most certainly do those things but they were accomplished through His MESSENGERS, that is what a messenger is, they carry the word and will of Jehovah.
Did you write that or did God write it through you, Jodi? Do you cook dinner for your…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Jodi,
You said:
Lightenup, if you use the NICENO-CONSTANTINOPOLITAN CREED (AD 381) with me I will PAY NO ATTENTION, those of this creed were PAGAN CONVERTS who exiled or even MURDERED those speaking against their doctrine, they also translated texts and burned the originals they had. Their creed is worthless, they were by NO MEANS men of God s…
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Right t8, a worthy profession…a satanist astronaut…NOT!
Here is the CHRISTIAN astronaut with many pictures of the curved earth from the space station. He mentions what it was like to spend Christmas day up there directly over Israel, he talks about the LORD. We need more videos of him on here.
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
you said:
I didn’t call Sagan a liar
Yet you said this:
“I just pieced together a 1 minute video that shows Sagan lying, and Tyson telling the truth…”
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
Do you realize that Neil deGrasse Tyson is a globe guy?
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