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Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Jodi,
Along with my recent post to you, please answer these questions also from May 25th.
I asked:
Who do we all belong to as a son/daughter before we become a son/daughter of God?
Also, please tell me if you understand that the term “firstborn” can apply to the only child in a family and it is not necessary for there to be other children.
Thanks!
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Hi Jodi,
I’m sorry if I missed your answer to my question which I will repeat here. I asked it on May 25th.
Hi Jodi,
I am not asking you who is Jesus spiritual Father after his baptism. I am asking you who is his spiritual Father before baptism, if it wasn’t God. You seem to be saying that God was only Jesus’ spiritual Father after baptism and
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
I enjoyed your effort towards this quest you have us on here. I hope you had fun, however, you should have relaxed because you really didn’t have a good experiment.
you said: Are you ready to acknowledge the problem with the placement of the earth in that wet flag image?
I don’t have a problem with the placement of the earth in that image.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
I think the Apollo image you want to talk more about is the one of Astronaut Schmitt.
Astronaut Gene Cernan took that picture. They were on the moon in a valley, the Valley of Taurus Littrow which was surrounded by the Taurus Mountains, thus you can see the moon MOUNTAIN in the background of the picture as well as the earth overhead…you…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
Thank you for your acknowledgement. Glad I could help. Now on to the Apollo image. Which one, the “wet flag” picture?
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
t8, Mike, D4t,
The Sun does have a circuit…around the Milky Way. The moon orbits the earth, the earth orbits the sun, the sun orbits the Milky Way.
The galactic year, also known as a cosmic year, is the duration of time required for the Sun to orbit once around the center of the Milky Way…
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
I will take the time to answer you if you will acknowledge that stand corrected, agree? And if I stand corrected, I will acknowledge that as well. You seem to do that most of the time, so kudos to you.
you said:
Only the part of the moon that his finger is touching can be lit up by the sun. And that means anyone on the day side of the…
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Hi again Gene,
I can quote you some scriptures if you want:
Colossians 2:9 ESVFor in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,
John 1:1 ESV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Revelation 5:14 ESV
And the four living creatures said, “Amen!” and the elders fell down and wor…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Hi Gene,
I believe that was Anthony that said that you didn’t quote many scriptures.
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Nick,
you said:
The sons of God are led by the Spirit of God. Rom 8
Jesus was a son of God, according to the flesh, from his conception and God parented him.
He became a son of God, according to the Spirit, at the Jordan and he was led from that moment as Lk 4 .1 confirms.
You don’t believe that the Spirit of God was leading Jesus before the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Hi Anthony, good post. It seems they see Jesus as a super pope from what I can tell. Like the pope talks for God, decides the will of God for the church, hears and forgives people’s sins, guides people how to pray, some are healers, they are bowed down to, etc.
I don’t understand if they want to be like Jesus but then follow a man for salvation…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Dig4truth,
you said:
Why then do we send them to places where protection is prohibited?
And why then is the force of the Federal Government brought against the people to exert money to pay for the murder of millions of babies!
What places are children sent where protection is prohibited?
The government charges taxes to its citizens, the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
you said:
You cannot see both the sun and the horizon at high noon, Kathi.
At high noon I could be walking down a street and ahead of me is the horizon, above me is the sun. Soooo…
I’m not sure what your point is, Mike, sorry.
M: Notice how the red dude can see both the sun and the moon in the sky from his perspective? But at the same…
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
Kathi: Mike,
What is your stance on the Sandy Hook school killings? Did it happen or no?
Mike: It was a staged event. Nobody was hurt or killed, and it was one of many such events that have the sole purpose of getting gun ban legislation passed.
Why am I not one bit surprised!?
I grieve for those parents who have lost their children due…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Dig4truth,
I would actually prefer not having to spend hours challenging each of your ideas, truly. I may stop, I’ve thought about it. There has been a benefit for me though. It has given me reason to “dig 4 truth” and I am all the better when I have truthful reasons for what I believe.
Now about the sun’s orbit post on the top of this page that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
Regarding the answers from the astronauts about seeing stars or not or not remembering, I took a flight from Seoul, South Korea to NYC once. It was a 15 hour flight. I got on during the day, I experienced a sunset while on the flight, and then a sunrise also. I cannot tell you whether or not I saw stars but I do remember the sunset and the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
you said:
I just talked to T8 about the NASA explanation for our seasons. The idea is that the earth’s rotational axis is tilted to 23.5 degrees, thereby giving us seasons. But were you aware that while this tilt would position the northern hemisphere a few thousand miles closer to the sun during our summer, the earth is 3.1 million mil…
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Dig4truth,
Have you considered that the sun’s orbit is that of the Milky Way and not of the earth?? The moon orbits the earth, the earth orbits the sun, the sun orbits the Milky Way.
Read here, even NASA says that the sun moves in orbit but not of the earth.
https://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question18.html
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Dig4truth,
The Christian astronauts are using scripture. Check out the reasons in the scopes articles before you dismiss them.
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
I believe this theory of NASA faking the moon landing and the ISS is very disappointing when adopted by those confessing to have the indwelling Spirit of God. Christians are to have discernment over what is truth and what is not truth. When Christians fall for the error, God does not receive the glory He is due. We need to reflect truth. This…[Read more]
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