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Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Jodi,
you said:
Isaac was not Abraham’s firstborn son, but he was CALLED that according to a PROMISE.
Do you mean to say that Isaac was called the “only begotten” according to a promise? Maybe you can show me where he is also called the “firstborn” of Abraham. I am not aware of that.
Thanks,
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Jodi,
I believe you are confused when you said:
I think LU said it right here, “Anthony, i don’t think were adopted,…
You are quoting what I quoted Gene saying. I completely believe that believers are “adopted sons.” I put up verses that make that crystal clear.
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
So Nick,
Since you said this “You too try to divide God from His Son,” does that mean you love the Son according to the first commandment? Please clarify. I thought you would love the Son as yourself, as a neighbor in the second commandment since to you He is just a man.
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Good Dig4truth,
Claiming Jesus as your Lord and God would definitely place your love in the first commandment category! Thanks for your response here.
Blessings,
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Hi WJ,
you asked:
Why does it put part of my quote in Kathi’s?
It is probably because you did not click on the “ mark on the toolbar above. When finished quoting someone, click on the “ mark which would change it from quote to non-quote.
That should help. There are some nuances with the quoting process than there were way back when. You’ll get t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Are you addressing that to me, Nick? If so, a false church would produce bad fruit.
Find a good church, one that produces good fruit: love, joy, patience, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control, handling accurately the Word of God, providing water baptism, serving communion, equipping the saints, reaching the lost, worshiping the F…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Mike,
you asked:
This is the bottom line of what I want to know from you and @t8:
- Did the ancient Hebrews consider the earth to be stationary, and fixed on pillars? YES or NO?
- Did the ancient Hebrews consider the sun and the moon to be two different lights in the firmament? YES or NO?
- Did the ancient Hebrews consider the fi…
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Nick,
Do you serve the Father, do you also serve the Son? Unless they are together as ONE God, then you are serving two masters.
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Hi Nick,
You are right that it is easier to relate to Jesus and follow Him and obey Him, that is one reason that the Father sent the Son who willingly went, to help us to relate to Him since He became flesh like us. He is the head of the church, the church gathers…find one. It will do you good!
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Anthony,
you said:
Lightenup what Im saying is that before time was before the creation of anything Jesus was begotten of the Father Yahweh the Father had no beginning. the Son came out of the Father, and that’s when the Son began, He had everything because He is the Son of God the only begotten of the Father. First the Father ( no beginning) s…
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Yeah, you read the OP correctly! Thank you for your direct and bold response, Keith! That bold declaration is the evidence of being born again by the Spirit. Not many can confess that unfortunately. Your name does indeed say it all, haha.
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Nick,
You are letting your fears keep you from searching for a church that teaches the Word of God. That spirit of fear is not from God. Who do you think wants to keep you out of church Nick? God or satan? Follow God. No church is perfect but some are much better than others. God can use imperfect churches. Look at their fruit and value that. We…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Gene,
you said:
Anthony, i don’t think were adopted, nor was Jesus either, we spimple were given the holy spirit and thereby became Sons of the Living God. Elect yes, God chose to give us his spirit, the same with Jesus also, you are seeing it as all humanity is childern of different parents, but all people are the childern of God because all h…
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Nick,
The Lord will use the members of His body to help bring people into the fold and/or encourage them and build them up spiritually and in truth. Don’t despise or neglect the questions or the concern.
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Well hello WJ, how are you Keith? Nice to see you come by. You should stay awhile and show us what you have learned over the years as you have furthered your theological studies. You have caused us all to dig deeper into the word, including myself. Thank you for your kind words! I learned a lot from our challenging conversations.
I know you place…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Thank you Dig4truth for responding to the OP. I’m not sure because you weren’t specific but I assume you see your call to love Jesus as you love the Lord your God. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
I really appreciate your thoughtful response! Thanks again!!
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Nick,
you said: I have taken up my role in the Body.
What is your role in the Body? How can you be a sign post or a check point if you do not know what is going on and get involved? With presumption comes nothing but strife.
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Nick,
The Body, united in Spirit comes together to meet physically.
1 Cor 14:26 What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification.
Do you experience that ever? When was the last time you experienced that?
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Anthony,
you said
Lightenup I believe that The only begotten (birth) by the Father too. What your saying is that The only begotten Son was in the Father eternally? Do I have that right? God bless. I’ll have to look in to that thought thanks.
Yeah, we are in agreement on the birth by the Father before creation. While you are processing the idea o…[Read more]
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