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Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Ya’ll get that the geneology in Matthew is for a different person than the geneology of Luke, right? David had several sons. Solomon is in the Matthew geneology, Nathan is in the Luke geneology. The two geneologies are not for the same person.
Matt 1:6
Eli was the father of Mary and the father-in-law to Joseph. Both Mary and her husband Joseph…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Mike,
I think this site will greatly help you understand why there are the three types of shadows, penumbra, umbra, and ante-umbra.
https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/shadows.html
Umbra, Penumbra, and Antumbra: Why Are There 3 Shadows?On their journey through space, the Earth and the Moon cast 3 different shadows causing different types of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Mike,
you said:
Remember back when we were talking about how it’s summer in the northern hemisphere when the earth is supposedly 3.2 million miles farther away from the sun?
I don’t remember the diagram but I have seen diagrams of the orbit around the sun that were drawn wrong. The last post has the distance between summer and winter appearing t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Mike,
you said:
Notice how the highest annual mean temperature is always parallel to the equator. But according to your image, that would be absurd, because of the earth’s alleged 23.4 degree tilt in relation to its orbit around the sun.
Look at this picture, it should help you see the mean temperature chart more clearly.

Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Mike,
That’s a lot of questions all at once. For now, I will address this video of the eclipse of yours.
you asked:
As you can see, the moon is above me. It is setting in the west. The sun is about to rise behind me in the east. I want to know what is lighting the bottom of the moon really bright, and what is causing the shadow on the top of…
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Jodi, you are very good at defending that Jesus was a man according to the flesh…no one here disputes that. But He is also the Lord of lords of the OT who’s name is Jehovah along with His Father.
- In Zechariah 12 JEHOVAH is speaking (verses 1 and 4). In verse 10 Jehovah says, “They shall look upon ME whom they have pierced.” This can refer to…
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Gene, I didn’t suggest you were arrogant, I proved it. I told you that it was NOT because you disagree with me but your last post proves that you didn’t comprehend that I said that. Then I explained why I discerned that you were. Go back and read it. That is a ministry of reproof, Gene, meant to strengthen you if you are wise. Let it strengthen…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Nick,
I asked you this, I didn’t answer it for you.
“After reading that, Nick, do you think that you are following Jesus?”
Why don’t you answer that for me?
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Hi Nick,
Luke 14
26“If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple. 27“Whoever does not carry his own cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple.
After reading that, Nick, do you think that you are following Jesus?
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Nick,
you asked:
So where does it say that Jesus desires our love?
I just gave you two verses that you can deduce that from.
John 14:21
“He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him.”
Matt 10:37
37“He who loves fa…
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Nick,
Do you think that Jesus desires our love after reading these two verses? Do you think that Jesus is saying that you are to love him as much as you love your father and mother, sons and daughters or more than your father and mother, sons and daughters?
John 14:21
“He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Nick,
Are these two statements the same or very different:
Jesus needs our love.
Jesus desires our love.
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Nick, I don’t think that I said that the Son of God needs our love. Can you show me where I said that Jesus “needs” our love?
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Hi Nick,
you asked:
When did our Master demand that we love him?
He doesn’t demand that we love him.
you said:
We serve a master who expects more commitment evidence than just professed love.
Do you think that I do not know that?
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Mike,
you said:
Now just think about that for a while… “The moon is also not above their heads…”
We see it up in the sky above us when it’s under our feet?
Mike, Mike, Mike…the sun is behind the X-men, the moon is IN FRONT of the X-men. The stars are above their heads. If it wasn’t that way, there would be no eclipse.
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Nick,
1If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Gene,
you asked:
So now, because i disagree with you i am arrogant? Is that the way you view people who disagree with you. Jesus told us to have Salt in yourselves “and” have peace.
Actually I do not know why you are arrogant, maybe you can tell me. I certainly do not view people who disagree with me as arrogant just because they disagree wit…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Gene,
you said:
So which hing on a door is more important the upper or the lower, are they not “BOTH” EQUALLY IMPORTANT?
No Gene, not according to Jesus. Read what He thinks about it:
Jesus declared, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38This is the first and greatest commandment.
Did you…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 Commandments, in Which Way do YOU Love Jesus in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
Hi Nick,
I didn’t say we aren’t to obey the Son.
Which is better:
1. Your son obeys you but doesn’t love you.
2. Your son loves you and therefore obeys you.
Lightenup replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Mike,
You said this regarding your jumping jack funnel circles:
Okay, there is no way the umbra (or penumbra for that matter) can be anywhere but at their feet. The shadow of the earth cannot possibly be above their heads, as they are all standing at the terminator line, where light and dark meet on the earth. So because of that, there is no way…
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