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Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
t8,
You are also in denial of this one:
1 Cor 8:6
6To us, ours is one God The Father, for all things are from him and we are in him, and The One LORD JEHOVAH Yeshua The Messiah, for all things are by him, and we are also in his hand.
https://biblehub.com/aramaic-plain-english/1_corinthians/8.htm
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
t8,
This is how Matt 18:26-27 is translated by the same Bible translation.
26And falling down, that servant worshiped him, and he said, “My Lord, be patient with me, and I shall pay you everything.” 27And the lord of that servant was moved with pity, and he released him, forgiving his…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Jodi,
You said: The passage below says lord not lord Jehovah -you added that in.
That is how it is written in the Aramaic Bible.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Phil 2:10
9Because of this, God has also greatly exalted him and he has given him The Name which is greater than all names, 10That in The Name of Yeshua, every knee shall bow, which is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Berean,
You don’t believe that life begins at conception for humans?
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Jodi,
You said:
Jesus of Nazareth was the only mortal man begotten of God’s Spirit, who was then SENT to set us at liberty.
Can you show me the phrase “begotten of God’s Spirit” anywhere in the scriptures…anywhere?
Hopeful, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Berean,
You said to Gene:
Jesus is called “THE WORD OF GOD” because IT IS FROM THE BEGINNING HE WHICH PRONOUNCES THE CREATIVE WORDS.
“LET THERE BE LIGHT”
he is the FATHER’S CREATING AGENT.I have a different understanding of who said “let there be Light” on day one. I believe that it was the Father announcing the begetting of the Son who is th…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Gene,
What Jesus had within him before he became flesh and dwelt among us and even before anything was made in heaven or on earth, is illustrated in the analogy of the closed mitosis diagram. Man is not a continuation of that process. The only begotten Son of God who was born BEFORE creation and WHO made all things in heaven and on earth BEFORE…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
t8, Look carefully at my last post on page 684. That should help you see how one is of the other yet both share the same substance.
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Gene, you are not a son from God by reproductive process, you are from dirt, we all are. There is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON. If you were a son like Jesus, he would not be an only begotten son.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi t8,
You asked who is the oldest, the father or the son or are they exactly the same age. I think this diagram will help:

Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Jodi,
Please describe the qualities of a firstborn lamb at passover.
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Jodi,
You said …the Son of God is still a human being, he is the root and offspring of David
As the root, he came before David as in the form of God, as the Son of God, who established the line of David.
As the offspring, he came after David as in the form of man as the Son of Man.
He was both, the Son of God AND the Son of Man. He wasn’t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
t8,
Regarding this conversation:
LU: Jesus taught that he was the Son of God and also the giver of eternal life. That alone would be considered “making himself equal with God.”
Human reasoning right there.For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself.
t8: Note the word ‘granted’.
God is the bos…
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Hi Jodi,
Jesus taught that he was the Son of God and also the giver of eternal life. That alone would be considered “making himself equal with God.”
Can you let yourself imagine what would an only biological (speaking in terms of deity biology) son be like? In other words, if God brought forth his very own son asexually, one that was of his own…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Thank you Carmel, I hope you had a Happy Resurrection Day as well!
”Who” you asked…who do you think? Read your Bible, 😉
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Yes Berean, worthy is the Lamb! Hallelujah! Thank you for the song,
Blessngs,
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Happy Resurrection Day everybody, enjoy this song, a favorite of mine, that I want to share with you all.
Revelation 5
11Then I looked, and I heard the voices of many angels and living creatures and elders encircling the throne, and their number was myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands. 12In a loud voice…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Ed,
You said: According to Hebrews 11:3 Jesus CANNOT be “The Word” – what say you?
According to Hebrews 11:3, Jesus being the logos of John 1:1 is not addressed one way or the other.
By faith we apprehend that the worlds were framed by word of God,
so that that which is seen should not take its origin from things which appear.When looki…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Hebrews 11:3 says nothing about the logos.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 1 month ago
Jodi,
The name of our one God is YHWH, YHWH is two persons as I understand it. One person sent the other person to become flesh and redeem mankind. In order to become flesh that second person had to empty himself of whatever necessary to become man. Once emptied and finished with his mission, he was given back what he emptied himself of.
In…[Read more]
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