Jodi,

Thank you for your answer and I agree that Abraham spoke to “Yah” face to face in Gen 18. I’m not sure how you justify that no man has seen God at any time though.

You said in a previous post:

The Spirit is life because of righteousness, and this man received the Spirit and is said to have been called to righteousness. Because of his…

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Jodi, who do you think Abraham is having a face to face conversation with in this passage:

Genesis 18

22And the men turned from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before Jehovah. 23And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou consume the righteous with the wicked? 24Peradventure there are fifty righteous within the city: wilt…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

Thank you for your post. How would you answer this question:

Was Jesus anointed in order to be the first begotten son of God?

Or

Was Jesus anointed because he WAS the only begotten son of God?

In other words, which came first…the state of being the only begotten son of God or the state of being anointed in order to become the first b…[Read more]

Bump

Carmel good post to t8 about Jesus bringing his children that he has been given!

Berean, good post to Edj, yes the Father calls his son God and even credits him as Jehovah.

Keep up the good work, LU

Gene,

You said: There is not one scripture that says Jesus “prexisted” his actual existence on this earth, there is not I NE scripture that shows “any” activity, of him pryor to his birth on this earth.

Gene, who do you think Abraham is having a face to face conversation with in this passage:

Genesis 18

22And the men turned from thence, and…[Read more]

Berean,

Very good verses and reasoning in your response to Edj!

LU

Can we hear from others on this, please???

Question:

Was Jesus anointed in order to be the first begotten son of God?

Or

Was Jesus anointed because he WAS the only begotten son of God?

In other words, which came first…the state of being the only begotten son of God or the state of being anointed in order to become the first begotten son of G…

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Amen Berean, great song!

Blessings, LU

Gene,

You said: What I want to do, is give God the Father my life…

If this is what you want, you have to give Jesus your life, go through the gate which is Jesus to get to the Father. You need to take up your cross daily and follow Jesus. Recognize Jesus as your shepherd, THE SHEPHERD, not as a fellow sheep in the herd. He is the head of the…[Read more]

Gene,

Thank you for your response.

This is what you said:

Jesus was anointed because he was a Son of Man, he had to be anointed in order to do the Will of God, exactly as we have to be also.

So how did he get singled out since all humans aside from Adam and Eve are a “son of man?”

Hi Pilgrim,

Thank you for your answer and all the support information…well done and I agree.

Blessings, LU

You’re welcome Jodi, I’m glad it was clear.

Jodi,

For the sake of argument, let’s say you believe that the eternal God, in order to create and relate to creation, needed to become able to be present in heaven on the throne as well as be able to leave heaven and the throne and be visually present in a place other than heaven. In order for Him to be able to be present in two dimensions, He…[Read more]

Question:

Was Jesus anointed in order to be the first begotten son of God?

Or

Was Jesus anointed because he WAS the only begotten son of God?

In other words, which came first…the state of being the only begotten son of God or the state of being anointed in order to become the first begotten son of God.

I believe either view will lead to…[Read more]

Amen Pilgrim!

God bless, LU

Thank you for those great verses, Togel. I understand your frustration and feeling that there is nothing more you can say. There is always more that you can learn here by defending the deity of Jesus and it can only grow you closer to Him as you dig for more defense for the hope that lies within you.

2 Corinthians 4:6
For God, who said, “Let…[Read more]

Beautifully said Pilgrim, thank you. I’ve been reading some of the earliest church father’s lately, Ignatius, Polycarp, and Ireanaus. Ignatius and Polycarp died for those truths that you wrote. Ignatius was fed to the lions and Polycarp was put in the midst of fire and then stabbed by a sword. Both of these believers in Jesus as God with God in…[Read more]

Jesus was considered “anointed” as a baby. See that He was called the “Christ” or the anointed one in these two passages.

Matt 2:3

When King Herod heard this, he was disturbed, and all Jerusalem with him. 4And when he had assembled all the chief priests and scribes of the people, he asked them where the Christ was to be born.

Luke 2

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Here Jodi,

https://answeringislam.org/Shamoun/badawi_jesus_preexistence.htm