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Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 12 months ago
t8 said this:
There is no mention in scripture that God is a club.
That quote of what t8 said is an example of what the democrats do to Donald Trump’s words. Do you see how he used the word “club” when no one here has used that word. False news starts so easily, t8.
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 12 months ago
Jodi,
5“The days are coming” h — this is the LORD’s declaration —
“when I will raise up a Righteous Branch of David. i
He will reign wisely as king
and administer justice and righteousness in the land. j
6In His days Judah will be saved,
and Israel will dwell securely. k
This is what He will be named:
•Yahweh Our Righteousness.

Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 12 months ago
Hi Carmel:
You said:
Satan, THE EVIL CREATED BY GOD was simply
Jesus Christ CAMOUFLAGED AS
THE GOD OF THIS WORLD.ALL IN HIM, ALL BY HIM and ALL FOR HIM
Carmel, I call that absolute heresy, did you really just call Jesus Christ, “satan?”
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Berean, Pilgrim and t8,
Re: satan is NOT the god of this world in 2 Cor 4:4 as per Irenaeus in his book “Against Heresies, Book III, Chapter 7
Reply to an objection founded on the words of St. Paul (2 Cor. iv. 4). St. Paul occasionally uses words not in their grammatical sequence
1. As to their affirming that Paul said plainly in the Second to…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Hi Jodi,
You said:
I hope this post does not go unanswered Lu, as you have not responded to several of my posts that have also showed clearly that Jesus is without a doubt not possibly YHVH.
Jodi, I have addressed this with you many times over the years. Your passages show clearly that Jesus is not the member of the Unity that is the Father. That…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Hi Pilgrim,
You said : Amen to your post on Yahweh being the unity of the Father, the Son and the Spirit. Very well expressed.
Thank you, glad you thought so.
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Hi Carmel,
You sad
ADAM Jodi,
WAS THE SON OF GOD ON HIS CREATION THEN HE REJECTED GOD AND BECAME
THE SON god OF THE WORLD:
SATAN!
Satan is not the god of this world.
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Hi Jodi,
You said (for starters):
Please explain as the God in the below passage is not the Son, and it was not the Son that spoke in times past unto the fathers, God did in divers manners. We read in the OT prophets receiving God’s word through angels, visions, and dreams.
Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in t…
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Hi Gene,
You said:
LU……Glad you understand that “adonai” means Almighty God, now with that understanding go back and reread what King David said, “the LORD (adonai) Almight God, said unto my lord (adon) meaning a human ruler. the human ruler there was speaking about “the anointed man Jesus”.
It seems that you do not understand what the original…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Hi Pilgrim,
You mistakenly said to Jodi:
You: Jehovah was one of the three “men,” the other two were angels.
My Response: An interpretation to suit your theology but it is clearly contrary to the text of Genesis 18.
I actually said that, not Jodi. I believe that the Jehovah that Abraham is talking to is the pre-incarnate Son of God. The oth…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Hi Pilgrim,
You said:
When Jehovah appeared to Abraham (Genesis 18) he appeared as three men (v.2) to whom Abraham bowed and addressed them as Adonay (used as a proper name of God only). Abraham prepared victuals for them, I.e. Jehovah, the three men. Jehovah manifest as three men said “Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do;” (Ge…
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Hi Jodi,
You said:
Jesus said the Spirit was upon him an anointing. He was the son of Jesse GIVEN the Spirit of Wisdom, Council and Might, Knowledge and Fear of the LORD. First you have a man and then he is Chrio (to anoint) becoming the Christos (anointed).
What does this mean, “he is Chrio becoming the Christos?” Please show me the verse with…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Jodi,
Thank you for your answer and I agree that Abraham spoke to “Yah” face to face in Gen 18. I’m not sure how you justify that no man has seen God at any time though.
You said in a previous post:
The Spirit is life because of righteousness, and this man received the Spirit and is said to have been called to righteousness. Because of his…
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Jodi, who do you think Abraham is having a face to face conversation with in this passage:
Genesis 18
22And the men turned from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before Jehovah. 23And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou consume the righteous with the wicked? 24Peradventure there are fifty righteous within the city: wilt…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Hi Jodi,
Thank you for your post. How would you answer this question:
Was Jesus anointed in order to be the first begotten son of God?
Or
Was Jesus anointed because he WAS the only begotten son of God?
In other words, which came first…the state of being the only begotten son of God or the state of being anointed in order to become the first b…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Bump
Lightenup replied to the topic Philippians 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
Carmel good post to t8 about Jesus bringing his children that he has been given!
Berean, good post to Edj, yes the Father calls his son God and even credits him as Jehovah.
Keep up the good work, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Gene,
You said: There is not one scripture that says Jesus “prexisted” his actual existence on this earth, there is not I NE scripture that shows “any” activity, of him pryor to his birth on this earth.
Gene, who do you think Abraham is having a face to face conversation with in this passage:
Genesis 18
22And the men turned from thence, and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Philippians 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
Berean,
Very good verses and reasoning in your response to Edj!
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years ago
Can we hear from others on this, please???
Question:
Was Jesus anointed in order to be the first begotten son of God?
Or
Was Jesus anointed because he WAS the only begotten son of God?
In other words, which came first…the state of being the only begotten son of God or the state of being anointed in order to become the first begotten son of G…
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