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Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
You have so many posts just to me, it seems you “need me” to answer you, ha. (its a joke no need to debate it 🙂 )
You said:
Mike: These claims are so very weak that they don’t even deserve a response.
LU:In other words, you can’t debate that.
Mike: As if my son somehow GAVE me the power and authority to be a father or create him.
LU:Are y…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
t8,
You can pray directly to Jesus…He is YHVH our Righteousness. He loves it when we talk to Him! It’s ok.
Acts 7:59 While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”
1 Cor 1:2
2Â To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be his holy people, together with all those ever…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
You said:
No, that doesn’t work. If they are praying TO a unity that involves both the Father and the Son (w or w/o the Spirit), then by identifying “a member of that unity” as the holy servant OF that unity, they then are essentially identifying him as a servant of HIMSELF.
Once again, the pastor is a servant to the church, a unity of be…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
You said:
Do YOU believe YHVH’s arm has a mind and a will of its own?  Surely you refer to John 12:38. The Trinitarians who produced the NET Bible say this…
“The arm of the Lord” is an idiom for “God’s great power” (as exemplified through Jesus’ miraculous signs). This response of unbelief is interpreted by the author as a fulfillment o…
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
You said:
“…the Son made all things in heaven and on earth…”  No. Jesus is the holy servant of the One who made the heavens, the earth, the sea, and everything in them.
“…the Son was slain before the foundation of the world…” No. That is a very poor translation.
Jesus is the holy servant of YHVH, the unity of which He is a member of.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
You asked:
Kathi, has Jesus ever GIVEN any power, authority, or revelation TO his and our God?
Mike, without having the position of creator, YHVH would not have the authority as the creator, so giving YHVH the position of creator is also giving YHVH the authority as the creator. Also, without having the position of father, YHVH would not…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
You asked:
When has Jesus GIVEN power, authority, position or revelation TO his and our God?
My answer:
When he (the Son) was begotten before the ages he gave the YHVH who beget him, the honor of the position of being a father.
When the Son made all things in heaven and on earth, he gave the YHVH who beget him, the honor of the position…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Mike,
Do you believe that YHVH and his “ARM” aka “YHVH our Righteousness” are in disunity? Yes or no?
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Mike, not quite…
You said:
Okay, so your understanding is that the apostles prayed to a unity of the Father and Jesus, but then identified Jesus as the holy servant OF the unity of the Father and Jesus? Is that right?
If your response there said this:
Okay, so your understanding is that the apostles prayed to YHVH, the unity of the Father,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi Mike,
You have been gone for a while and I know you were interested in this quest regarding the prayer in Acts 4 so I am pasting my post to yo from back then so you don’t miss it:
Mike,
You asked:
The prayer mentions the creation, right?
1. Did Jesus’ apostles pray to the one who created the heavens, the earth, the sea, and everything in t…
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi Carmel,
You would do well to read this thesis on the subject of 2 Cor 4:4. I do think you would not consider satan as the god of this world any longer. No need to keep that discussion going with me until you have read that thesis. I am convinced that satan is NOT the god of this world in Paul’s…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi Pilgrim,
You said:
I have started reading the thesis you sent by a link. It being 384 pages long I won’t be replying anytime soon. In any event I don’t see the value in continuing dialogue on this particular subject as you obviously have a set your mind the interpretation of the text.
Haha, yes it is a long thesis, and as I said…very tho…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Thank you to Pilgrim, t8, and Carmel for discussing 2 Cor 4:4 with me. I’ve wrestled with the passage and I stand on my initial belief. This thesis written by a man for his doctorate provides this conclusion (one would be hard pressed to find the subject more thoroughly examined):
In conclusion, then, I submit that the most likely meaning that m…
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi Pilgrim,
You said:
In 2 Corinthians 4:3 Paul is saying that “if the gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are LOST”. Now Jesus said “I am not sent but unto the LOST sheep of the house of Israel.” (Matthew 15:24) and again “For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was LOST.” (Luke 19:10). So the context of 2 Cor 4:4 is in relat…
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Here it seems that people bring on their own blindness by walking in the futility of their mind. They are excluded from the life of God because of the ignorance within them because of the hardness of their heart.
Ephesians 4
17So this I say, and affirm together with the Lord, that you walk no longer just as the Gentiles also walk, in the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Hi Pilgrim,
You said:
Praise God we have a common understanding regarding God the Father and Jesus Christ His Son.
Regarding the topic “god of this world”, we need to understand that the “world” Paul is talking of is “this present evil world” out of which born again children of God are delivered, not the created “world” that the Almighty God cr…
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
t8,
Jesus is YHVH our Righteousness. YHVH is the I AM. YHVH is the unity of the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the Great God. Jesus, YHVH our Righteousness is the Lord of lords. He is the Arm of this Unity of YHVH.
Rev 22
10And he said to me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near. 11“Let the one who…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Jodi,
The Son of God was anointed to be the Messiah before he was sent to be born of Mary.
Luke 2
25And there was a man in Jerusalem whose name was Simeon; and this man was righteous and devout, looking for the consolation of Israel; and the Holy Spirit was upon him. 26And it had been revealed to him by the Holy Spirit that he would not see…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Born and begotten in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 11 months ago
Carmel,
Read this to answer what are idols:
Holman Bible Dictionary
IdolPhysical or material image or form representing a reality or being considered divine and thus an object of worship. In the Bible various terms are used to refer to idols or idolatry: “image”, either graven (carved) or cast, “statue,” “abomination.” Both Testaments…[Read more]
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