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Lightenup replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2010,16:29)Quote (Lightenup @ May 07 2010,18:04)Note this verse:17:10 Everything 28 I have belongs to you, 29 and everything you have belongs to me, 30 and I have been glorified by them. 31you said: Quote The context is about Jesus not losing one of the children his Father gave him except Judas. He kept them in the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Answering jodi lee's nonsense in the forum The Hot Seat 16 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2010,16:08)Hi Kathi,Read it again. The things foretold that would happen by God bareing His holy arm are the exact things that Cyrus fulfilled for Him. That's why I put the Ezra quotes in the post. (The holy instruments of the temple being returned and such.)I'm convinced I will find more as I continue reading th…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Answering jodi lee's nonsense in the forum The Hot Seat 16 years, 3 months ago
Hi Mike and Nick,Let's not over analyze the finger and arm of God. I believe that God acts through the Son and the Spirit as if they were His arm and finger. The question is this, is the arm of God actually a person and is the finger of God actually a person. I think that the arm of God in many contexts is the Son, a person, and the finger of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Answering jodi lee's nonsense in the forum The Hot Seat 16 years, 3 months ago
Hi Nick,And one begotten God.
Lightenup replied to the topic Answering jodi lee's nonsense in the forum The Hot Seat 16 years, 3 months ago
Nick,I agree with the Living Word.
Lightenup replied to the topic Answering jodi lee's nonsense in the forum The Hot Seat 16 years, 3 months ago
Nick,If all is of God, even the God at His side is of Him…the one that is our Lord.
Lightenup replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 05 2010,20:08)Quote (Lightenup @ May 05 2010,15:06)JA,John 17:11-12Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are. 12 “While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 3 months ago
Quote (JustAskin @ May 05 2010,02:48)LU,'Reflected light',,, you mean, like the Moon? Jesus, analogically, is the Moon to God who , analogically, is the Sun.Is this your understanding?That the 'Moon' is the 'Light of men'?JA,Reflected light, like when one person soaks up another's thoughts, actions and words and character and passes that on to…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Answering jodi lee's nonsense in the forum The Hot Seat 16 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 05 2010,21:13)Quote (Lightenup @ May 05 2010,16:50)Mike, you have researched the Outstretched Arm and have come up with no evidence that the outstretched arm applied to anyone other than the Son of God. The only passage you mentioned was equating a man as a tool, not as an outstretched arm.Hi Kathi,YET. I said I hadn't c…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Answering jodi lee's nonsense in the forum The Hot Seat 16 years, 3 months ago
Quote (karmarie @ May 06 2010,00:45)Quote (karmarie @ April 29 2010,11:01)Quote (Lightenup @ April 29 2010,07:14)I am just asking you to have some integrity when you quote someone. I realize that quoting a part of someone's post can be reasonable and without misrepresentation and with integrity to respect that person's freedom of speech. When y…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Answering jodi lee's nonsense in the forum The Hot Seat 16 years, 3 months ago
Nick,The Father and the Son are one. We serve both!
Lightenup replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2010,00:38)Hi LU, Is thinking things enough to declare them? God is I AM WHO AM and there is no other God.Nick,There is no other God except the Lord God with the Outstretched Arm. The Outstretched Arm is the Son, called Jehovah Saves.
Lightenup replied to the topic Answering jodi lee's nonsense in the forum The Hot Seat 16 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 04 2010,23:38)Hi Kathi,You said:Quote So, since Gen 18:3 has the #113 (Adown) Lord in it, then it shouldn't have been changed to Jehovah. I'm not sure you're clear on the translation question. Nobody “changed” Lord to Jehovah. The oldest MSS already have Jehovah in those 134 places. Why the scribes changed some of the “J…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Answering jodi lee's nonsense in the forum The Hot Seat 16 years, 3 months ago
Nick,1 Cor 1:23-2423 but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness, 24 but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. NASU1 Cor 1:30-3130 But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2010,23:10)Hi LU, So when did he become YAH and no longer BE YAHSHUA?Nick,I think the Son was Yahweh first and then became Yahshua which means Yahweh Saves. The Bible does not tell us when. Sons are named typically when they are born.
Lightenup replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 3 months ago
Quote (JustAskin @ May 04 2010,17:21)LU,You say that the Father and the Son are “both One”.Now, while this is true, did you mean to say it that way. Yes, they are BOTH ONE – the first is One and the second is One, Yes.Did you mean: They are both ONE is Spiritual Purpose, Both working for the same End? Yes then. They are One in each Other.Did you…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 04 2010,23:06)Quote (Lightenup @ May 05 2010,14:00)Mike is right JA but you will only find the NASB to translate it that way:John 1:1818 No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.NASUHi Kathi,How about these translations?John 1:18 King James Version No man…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 3 months ago
Quote (JustAskin @ May 04 2010,16:35)LU,Please can you point me to where Jesus was given the name of the Father.I'm not saying you are wrong – I just want to read it from where you read it from.Thank you, JustAskin.JA,John 17:11-12Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are. 12 “While…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Echad and elohym part 2 in the forum Truth or Tradition 16 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 04 2010,21:55)Quote (JustAskin @ May 05 2010,08:37)Please can you point me to where Jesus is called the Begotten God.Hi JA,John 1:18mikeMike is right JA but you will only find the NASB to translate it that way:John 1:1818 No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Answering jodi lee's nonsense in the forum The Hot Seat 16 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2010,14:49)Hi lU, So logic fills the gaping holes and you feel justified in your speculations? When will you let scripture teach you?Where does scripture say he WAS BORN before creation??“The LORD possessed me at the beginning of his work, the first of his acts of old. Ages ago I was set up, at the first, before the…[Read more]
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