Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 13 2010,14:59)Quote (Lightenup @ June 14 2010,06:13)Well, Mike, your 'friend' will be your bridegroom…you ought to realize that the 'friend' is a better 'friend' than you realize. C'mon Mike, Jesus is your mighty what?Hi Kathi,You act as if we are discussing a different Jesus.  It is the same Jesus.  It's just to me, h…[Read more]

Well, Mike, your 'friend' will be your bridegroom…you ought to realize that the 'friend' is a better 'friend' than you realize. C'mon Mike, Jesus is your mighty what?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2010,22:14)Quote (Lightenup @ June 13 2010,13:54)Quote (Lightenup @ June 12 2010,21:52)Mike,Quote For our God, Jesus Christ, now that He is with the Father, is all the more revealed . (III).Whose God was Jesus Christ according to Ignatius?  He called Him “Our God.”  You say He is no ones god, much like the angels, i…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 13 2010,09:15)TO ALL:There is a point that I have been wanting to make so I will make it now. Mikeboll has tried to prove from fragment quotes that Eusebuis believed that Jesus had a beginning. These fragments are inadmissable because in the end Eusebius submitted to and signed the Nicean creed which denied that Jesus…[Read more]

Mike,Is the Father in you? Is it by His spirit that He is in you? Who sent Him? I already told you. John 15:2626 “When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me, NASU Or do you think the Spirit of Truth is a third person?

Quote (Lightenup @ June 12 2010,21:52)Mike,Quote For our God, Jesus Christ, now that He is with the Father, is all the more revealed . (III).Whose God was Jesus Christ according to Ignatius?  He called Him “Our God.”  You say He is no ones god, much like the angels, isn't that right?Mike,Doesn't this from Ignatius kinda bite YOU in the but?

Mike,Quote For our God, Jesus Christ, now that He is with the Father, is all the more revealed . (III).Whose God was Jesus Christ according to Ignatius? He called Him “Our God.” You say He is no ones god, much like the angels, isn't that right?

Quote (karmarie @ June 09 2010,19:07)Hi WJ, this is really the last thing I have to say here (on this thread) because I cant be bothered with these debates, but just to clear up this matter on the Saint Ignatius..I cheaked it and your rightAuthentic letters:To the Ephesians To the Magnesians Letter to the Trallians To the Romans To the…[Read more]

Mike,Didn't Ignatius write that He was begotten before the ages though?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2010,21:35)Quote (Lightenup @ June 13 2010,13:30)When I find one Jehovah sending the other, you will say that it is the first person, third person who are both the same or you will claim that it is really an angel.Hi Kathi,So you disagree with my post of Zec 2?  Why?  Why would God Almighty ever be SENT by anyone?  …[Read more]

Nick,God could procreate whatever He needed, so no He was not helpless.What do you mean that Ignatius has no proven heritage?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2010,21:16)Quote (Lightenup @ June 12 2010,11:42)Hi Mike,Thanks for your view.  I hope I have you questioning your Jehovah is always the Father theory, anyway.  Two persons called 'Jehovah' is making more and more sense to me.  In fact, I think that Jehovah in the OT is the Son in more instances than realized.  I kno…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2010,21:36)Hi LU, God gave His name as I AM WHO AM. Was it a chorus of voices or should it have been WE ARE WHO ARE?Nick,They both are who they are. Sometimes they are quoted as speaking amongst themselves and we see things like Gen 1:26-27. Then when speaking to the people, there is one spokesperson.Gen 1:26-2726…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 12 2010,15:18)Kathi said:Quote Roo,Since when is power begotten?Kathi,Isn't the word of the apostles good enough for ya?32And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers, 33God hath FULFILLED the same unto us their children, in that HE RAISED UP JESUS AGAIN; as it is also WRITTE…[Read more]

Mike,Better

Thanks so much Irene and Happyman,My dad is seriously thinking of quitting kidney dialysis and that means certain death within a few weeks or so. It is all weighing heavily on the family. I'm heading up there again for another 10 hour trip later this week.

JA,Quote LU, Mike is having a ball…wid ya' lightenup!LOL, hahaha, teehee…is that better

I think it is a good idea SF! We are here to learn, not to win or overpower another. A judge just might help nail things down and keep things more respectable.

Quote (Lightenup @ June 09 2010,21:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 09 2010,20:06)Quote (Lightenup @ June 09 2010,15:11)Hi Mike,I just wanted to make sure you saw these words of Ignatius:But our Physician is the Only true God, the unbegotten and unapproachable, the Lord of all, the Father and Begetter of the only-begotten Son. We have also as a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 10 2010,22:41)Quote (JustAskin @ June 09 2010,16:20)Mike,I don't deal with phylosophical debate, So have no interest in what 'roo' said or what a man down the pub/bar told you.My interest is in the Scriptures.Everything we need to know is in the Scriptures.Okay JA and NickHere are some scriptures.  Tell me again how you…[Read more]