@lightenup
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 2 months ago
@Danny Dabbs
Do you agree with Berean’s conclusion here (see his long post on this page):
Conclusion
FATHER AND SON SHARE THE SAME DIVINE NAME : YHVH
Yeshua Hamashiach IS THE DIVINO/HUMAN NAME OF THE SON OF GOD.
THIS IS THAT I BELEIVE
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 2 months ago
You said:
Conclusion
FATHER AND SON SHARE THE SAME DIVINE NAME : YHVH
Yeshua Hamashiach IS THE DIVINO/HUMAN NAME OF THE SON OF GOD.
THIS IS THAT I BELEIVE
Amen and glory to YHVH, I agree with your conclusion! Btw, thanks for the peaceful music.
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 2 months ago
@Proclaimer
Welcome back, I hope you had a nice break.
I’m pasting an unanswered post of mine to you, asked originally on January 9th or thereabouts.
Hebrews 1
O Lord,
You laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of Your hands.
11They will perish, but You remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
12You will r…
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 2 months ago
All praise to Yahweh the Father in Heaven
and to His Son Jesus Christ/Yeshua Hamashiach. Amen.Agree Danny Dabbs!
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 2 months ago
Berean,
Good list, “Jehovah Tsidkenu (The Lord Our Righteousness)” is clearly applied to Jesus.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 2 months ago
Hi Berean
You said: My reflection is especially on the fact that God created humanity endowed with free will and that He could have done it without the collaboration of his Son.
How do you know that God, the Father could have created anything apart from his Son? Maybe, but how do you know? I lean towards the possibility that the Father could not…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Berean,
I looked at the whole, you asked for specifics.
You started your post which was written as a statement of fact and I think it was not a fact that can be supported by scripture. That is why I started with the first line.Are there really those two main reasons that the Son was begotten? Only two, and no others AND where are they listed…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Actually, the answers to A & B when Proverbs 30 was written are YHVH to both. I don’t believe the Old Testament mentions the name Yashua for the Son.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Carmel:
I know that you don’t believe that Jesus did not exist before He was begotten from the dead. Obviously, begotten in Acts 13:33 did not mean that Jesus was non-existent before begotten on the day of the resurrection, for instance. Your Merriam-Webster definition is not the Biblical definition. The MW definition is from a word that didn’t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Berean,
For starters:
Where does this come from in the scriptures:
The two main reasons why God begot an Only Begotten Son in the days of eternity are:
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Hi Berean,
It is interesting to speculate. I don’t think that scripture directly says what you speculate though. I’m not saying that “brainstorming” is wrong but posting it as truth is misleading. Agree?
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Hi Danny,
I was wondering the same thing. I assume, since PC hasn’t been posting for a while, he hasn’t been spending time on HN to delete the spammers. It is eye opening how many there are that he must have to deal with regularly.
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Carmel,
Jesus did pre-exist his flesh as a spirit without flesh, and was and is and always will be part of the oneness of YHVH whether begotten or pre-begotten. The begetting does not change the oneness of YHVH which the Father and Son both belong.
God bless,
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Gene,
Is the Father independently the one true God AND eternal life?
OR
Is the Father, being the one true God and eternal life dependent on the Son’s obedience unto becoming man and obeying the Father even unto death, and being raised again to eternal life?
Did what Jesus did, make the Father God AND eternal life? In other words, can you h…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
@ Danny Dabbs @ berean
Hi guys, I’m glad that you can see that the only begotten Son of God has the name YHVH, which is also the name of his Father.
I believe that Jesus is identified as YHVH and the Father is identified as YHVH in the scriptures.
They share an eternal nature yet are distinct from each other as individual persons.
Both,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
@Proclaimer @DannyDabbs
Perhaps PC is enjoying a much needed holiday since he has still not put up a rebuttal post to my January 9th proof of the Son of God being identified as YHVH by his Father. I hope the Holy Spirit is opening his mind to that truth.
Today I saw this video for the first time which addresses the same scriptures which I used…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
@Danny Dabbs,
Looks like Proclaimer has gotten distracted from the January 9th question.
Have you any thoughts about Jesus being identified as YHVH and God?
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Carmel,
You said: ALL THE ABOVE IS A CLEAR REFERENCE TO JESUS’ PREXISTENCE AS A SPIRIT!
It is a reference to the only begotten Son of God who was in the same form as his Father before creation.
Lightenup replied to the topic Amazing landscapes in the forum Chatroom 5 years, 3 months ago
PC, what is the name of that national park in Australia?
Lightenup replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 3 months ago
Hi Carmel,
Thank you for rewriting your post. That was much easier to follow.
I see those references in Hebrews, Psalms 2, Acts 13, to the “begetting” as taking place from the dead. Hence, He is called “Firstborn from the dead.” Jesus, however is certainly identified as God’s Son already many times before he was begotten from the dead.
Co…[Read more]
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