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Lightenup replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years, 11 months ago
Mike,That is soooo second grade!

Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 11 months ago
Pierre,I don't know if we are told if the angels were made in God's image and we know that originally satan was an angel. I know man is made in God's image and that the Son of God IS God's image.Col 1:1515 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. NASUSo, I wouldn't exactly say that Christ reflects God's image but that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 11 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 07 2010,23:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 08 2010,22:06)Mike,those without the nature of God/THOSE WITH THE NATURE OF GODKathiand who has the nature of God so that he may take Gods worship ,I only know one who try that and that is Satan,PierrePierre,No where does scripture say that satan has the nature of God. Test all things?
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 11 months ago
Pierre,How did you test that story? Did you research who Addaeus the apostle was and what he taught? Did you research anything to verify or prove anything or did you just go by your whim?
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 11 months ago
MIKE,That which has the nature of a giraffe is a giraffe, no?
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 11 months ago
Mike,those without the nature of God/THOSE WITH THE NATURE OF GOD
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 11 months ago
Pierre,That story has nothing to do with Paul.
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 11 months ago
Mike,The words were from the Bishop and also the new convert. Btw, according to you no one better be caught being a servant of Christ. Tell that to Paul, a bondservant of Christ's.
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 11 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 07 2010,17:35)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 08 2010,15:48)Here you go Mike and JA and anyone that ought to know if the early church worshiped the Son along with the Father. This webpage is an incredible account of a Christian bishop around 100 AD, that confronted a high priest of idols who then renounced what he had been doing…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 11 months ago
Enjoy the wonderful job of moving Keith!
We'll see you when you are back in cyberspaceLightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 11 months ago
Pierre,Don't miss the intent of the message by getting caught up in how things aren't said the way you would want them said, ok?
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 11 months ago
Hi Pierre,Thank you for those scriptures and I agree with them and I do not know how you would think my understanding would not go with this?
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 11 months ago
Here you go Mike and JA and anyone that ought to know if the early church worshiped the Son along with the Father. This webpage is an incredible account of a Christian bishop around 100 AD, that confronted a high priest of idols who then renounced what he had been doing and turned to Christ. The story is amazing as it reveals the incredible…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 11 months ago
Pierre,And who's interpretation of what God is and did, and does shall I start using…yours? I can't believe less than I believe…all I can do is seek and deal with what I learn. I really don't think that it is your place to tell people to stop understanding how they understand…that doesn't even make sense. Why do you want to intimidate me?…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 11 months ago
Quote (Baker @ Sep. 06 2010,12:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 07 2010,03:45)OK, a new author for today…Theophilus. He has captured my attention and is easier to read than some early Christian fathers. Following is an excerpt about God creating through a helper…His Word which was begotten before the ages.Quote CHAPTER X.—THE WORLD CREATED BY GOD…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 11 months ago
Pierre,That is closer to my understanding. I do agree that the Son did not come from nothing. I think the Son was in existence before He was begotten and was within the one true God. During eternity at some point, He was begotten and began His ministry as the begotten God 'of God,' He was a helper in creation and made appearances to men, Adam…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 11 months ago
Great Dennison…smile 4 unity!
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 11 months ago
That is great Pierre. God did create all things material and immaterial but He did not create them from a prior substance that always existed. The creator is able to bring about what wasn't before in existence by merely His desire to bring it about.
Lightenup replied to the topic Does god procreate? in the forum View Points 15 years, 11 months ago
Mike,I asked for one question, you gave me two, I answered one. I didn't forget, you forgot that I just wanted one question at a time.Quote So let's bring this down to the brass tacks Kathi. Whether God begot, created, spawned or waved a “magic fairy wand” and poofed him into existence, the fact is that God “CAUSED JESUS TO EXIST”, right? Actual…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 11 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 06 2010,21:57)Kathiyou say;Also, about something coming from nothing…what comes to mind as an example are the many languages that God brought to those building the tower of Babel. Many languages were created out of nothing but the will of God. that is not ;nothing coming out of nothing. first God create man to t…[Read more]
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