Pierre,Those are good questions. For starters: we believe IN both of them, we follow both of themwe recognize them both as Lord over uswe recognize them as our creatorwe surrender our lives to themwe forgive others and love others and care for others to honor themwe trust them both, etc.Remember that we have 'seen' the Father in a sense because…[Read more]

Hi Mike,Do you know of any scriptures that tell us to honor someone other than Christ, 'just as' we honor the Father?

Yes Keith, I do enjoy corporate worship. I especially like being outdoors at our city's Riverbend Festival on Faith Night when there are tons of people from all the different area churches singing praises on a pleasant summer evening along the riverfront downtown with some famous Christian artist leading us.Enjoy your revival

Have a great time Keith! You speak in the future tense as if God does not inhabit you now? Does He come and go?

Yes, I know…bad, bad Fido, lol.

Mike,Thanks for noticing that I left out the link…it was my dog's fault I fixed it.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 13 2010,20:02)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 13 2010,19:22)Just a thought here as I was looking at the definitions of 'logos' and saw that 'decree' was a definition of that word.  See here:Quote Logos1. of speecha word, uttered by a living voice, embodies a conception or ideawhat someone has saida wordthe sayings of…[Read more]

Just a thought here as I was looking at the definitions of 'logos' and saw that 'decree' was a definition of that word. See here:Quote Logos1. of speecha word, uttered by a living voice, embodies a conception or ideawhat someone has saida wordthe sayings of Goddecree, mandate or orderof the moral precepts given by GodOld Testament prophecy given…[Read more]

Hi Irene,Here ya go, you and Keith can put your comments on 1 John 5:7 on this thread oops, I forgot the link so I edited this in https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….e+comma

Bump for Irene and Keith…have at it!

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 09 2010,23:59)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 09 2010,23:12)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 09 2010,22:53)I know Keith, but your view isn't supported as to your translation of monogenes with the early church fathers and the writers of the creeds.KathiAnd just how is that? Because the word “Monogenes” is not in the creeds. The word…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 09 2010,23:26)keith,When I say the Son had a beginning before creation, I equate that with He was generated before creation.  Just like what it says here:Quote Council of Constantinople II”If anyone does not confess that there are two generations of the Word of God, one from the Father before all ages, without time and…[Read more]

Hi Keith,Ah, the 'comma' strikes again…you can debate that all you want to here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….e+comma

Dennison,I am so sorry for your loss of one of your family members. I lost my Dad a few months ago and I know that it is hard, very, very hard.Bless you,Kathi

Thanks Mike for that one-sided dialogue with John MacArthur  I understand your thinking on that.  Here's a link to a view which opposes 'eternally begotten' and favors 'incarnationally begotten:'  http://www.letgodbetrue.com/sermons/pdf/sonship-of-christ.pdfI am finding all these views interesting.

No Irene, I have no grudge against you. Don't read into my desire to stay on topic anything other than I want to stay on topic.

I don't know who wrote this but it is topical:Quote The Eternal Sonship of Jesus Christ01.01.2009 · Posted in doctrinal issues, doctrine, theologyThe Eternal Sonship of Jesus ChristThe eternal sonship of Jesus is a very important doctrine. It is also a doctrine that cannot be fully comprehended by mortal man. On the other hand, mortals must at…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 11 2010,21:06)Hi JA,Your logic is flawed.JA:Quote Mike,Why would someone compare bananas with pears and say, 'With which pear did he ever make banana dacaree out of'?No, it's more like Jesus alone is the banana, and Paul said, “To which of the pears did God ever say, 'You will be yellow and have a skin that is easily…[Read more]

Keith,Quote The Eternal Sonship of ChristSome Evangelicals, such as John MacArthur, J. Oliver Buswell, and the late Walter Martin, have been abandoning the Trinitarian faith as defined by the First Council of Nicaea (A.D. 325). Their abandonment of orthodox Trinitarianism consists in denying the eternal Sonship of Christ, the doctrine that the…[Read more]

Keith,Quote The Eternal Sonship of ChristSome Evangelicals, such as John MacArthur, J. Oliver Buswell, and the late Walter Martin, have been abandoning the Trinitarian faith as defined by the First Council of Nicaea (A.D. 325). Their abandonment of orthodox Trinitarianism consists in denying the eternal Sonship of Christ, the doctrine that the…[Read more]