Jodi,

Matthew’s genealogy establishes that the husband of Mary has David in his lineage among other things the genealogy shows such as significant historical events and number of generations. Matthew’s geneology does not use the words the “father of” Jesus but instead “the husband of Mary” who gave birth to Jesus. The emphasis is on who the…[Read more]

Jodi,

You said:

If God can create heaven and earth with two humans male and female made to reproduce after their own kind by sperm to egg, He can make a virgin pregnant with her betrothed husband’s seed.

Do you recall how the angel appeared in the dream to Joseph shortly after he found out that Mary was pregnant, and spoke to Joseph words of c…[Read more]

@Proclaimer

You said God is a Spirit. Is the Son a Spirit?

Jodi,

You said:

Now how is Mary going to be able to be found with child without her knowing Joseph first?

Such a miracle (a sign to identify the great coming king of the house of David) could only be found if it was of the Holy Spirit.

If God could make a woman from Adam’s rib, He could make an egg fertile without a sperm to make the flesh…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You asked:

Can you explain speaking directly to the context of Matthew 1 how it is NOT telling us that Jesus is a true son of Abraham and David through Joseph?

Matthew has a pattern throughout the list of generations…so and so begat so and so…UNTIL the list comes to Joseph, then the pattern stops. It does not say or imply that Joseph beg…[Read more]

Jodi,

YHVH who is the unity of Father, Son and Spirit, created the world. In some contexts YHVH is more specifically the Father who by His power and outstretched Arm spread out the world. His outstretched Arm was the Son.

These things Jesus proclaimed, and He went away and hid Himself from them. 37But though He had performed so many signs in…[Read more]

Jodi,

This passage is not referring to Jesus either:

Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments,…[Read more]

Gene,

You said:

…or as you people believe , God killed a PREEXISTING God if that were even possible,  “MORPHED” HIM into a human baby,  and placed him into a body of a human women, and waited 9 months and then caused him to be born in disguise, as a human being, but really was a PREEXISTING God .

Gene, you have been here for probably over 1…[Read more]

That is sweet, thanks Berean!

Jodi,

This verse you use is about Cyrus, not the Messiah.

Isaiah 45:12 It is I who made the earth and created man upon it. It was My hands that stretched out the heavens, and I ordained all their host. 13I will raise up Cyrus in righteousness, and I will make all his ways straight. He will rebuild My city and set My exiles free, but not for…[Read more]

Gene,

Do you realize that you while you believe that Jesus came from God the Father implanting Mary supernaturally by the means of artificial insemination of David’s sperm, Jodi believes that Mary was implanted supernaturally by the means of artificial insemination of Joseph’s sperm, from what I can make out of what she wrote anyway. You believe…[Read more]

Jodi,

This shows you that Jesus is identified by the Father as YHVH that created the world in the beginning of time:

Heb 1

“YOU, LORD, IN THE BEGINNING LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH,

AND THE HEAVENS ARE THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS;

11THEY WILL PERISH, BUT YOU REMAIN;

AND THEY ALL WILL WEAR OUT LIKE A GARMENT,

12AND LIKE A ROBE YOU WILL R…[Read more]

Danny Dabbs,

Nice presentation to prove that before refers to “time” not importance.

LU

Gene,

You said:

Do I believe God had a “physical relationship with her? No I don’t because God is Spirit, he is not physical, but do I believe he did cause her to become pregnant with the Sperm of a descendant of king David , I certainly do believe that.

What you are describing would be “artificial insemination.”  I thought Jodi believed that…[Read more]

Gene,

You said:

Perfectly United, with any person , does not mean you are that same person, you are just in agreement with that person, that is all.

I don’t believe that anyone that teaches that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are perfectly united thinks that being perfectly united means one person is that same person.

Gene,

Please answer this question as directly as you can and be as brief as you can.

Do you actually believe that the Heavenly Father had intercourse with Mary to produce a son?

LU

Danny Dabbs,

Good response to Gene.

Keep it up 🙂

LU

Hi Carmel,

I agree that Jesus is in his glorified body at the right hand of the Father.

Blessings, LU

Hi Berean,

Good words!

@Jodi

You’re welcome.

You said:

My understanding is that you see Jesus as existing as the same kind of being that our heavenly Father is, and that he is His only Son in that manner. You believe the angels (Sons of God) were created after Jesus.

That is correct, Jodi. I also believe that the Son, according to the flesh, did not exist until the…[Read more]