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Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 2 weeks ago
I’m happy to tell you about the Two Powers of God, actually referred to as the “Two Powers of Heaven”.
The concept of “two powers in heaven” (often described as binitarianism in modern scholarship) refers to an early Jewish theological framework that posited two divine figures or manifestations sharing authority in the heavenly…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 2 weeks ago
We can take a slight pause on the Deut 10 :17 after you give me an analogy that is not comparing apples to oranges and shows that you are grasping the pattern. Make it follow this form: the name of a unity of persons = the title or category of each member in the unity.
Israel is the name of a unity, the House of Jacob. Israel=Jacob…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 2 weeks ago
You wrote:
You’re reaching and your analogy doesn’t work; you’re using an example of two physical separate identities and trying to make them one.
I am showing you that the name of the unity called Israel is made up of a man that God named Israel (Jacob) + Jacob’s sons. The unity called Israel is echad…one in a united sense of be…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 3 weeks ago
All good questions!
You wrote:
If I were to say my shirt is black and white, does that mean I have two shirts? Absolutely not!!!! It means my shirt has two colors, black and white. This grammatical concept is the same being used in the Deut 10:17 passage. This passage simply states YHWH is G-d above all other gods and Lord above all…
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 3 weeks ago
You ask:
where does it say the meaning of the Tetragrammaton is the “fullness of G-d” and that it represents each of G-d’s “presences”?
Deuteronomy 10:17
“For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who does not show partiality, nor take a bribe.
I understand t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 3 weeks ago
@Proclaimer @Berean @DesireTruth
When you understand that YHWH is a name for the fullness of God as well as the name of each presence of God, i.e. Father, Son and Holy Spirit, many things in the Bible become easier to understand. Give it a try, ask the Holy Spirit to illuminate this and open your heart and mind.
Be blessed, LU
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months ago
Unity…let’s start here:
You wrote:
what does Deut 6:4 say: “…The Lord our G-d is one Lord.” Did you catch “G-d” and “Lord” in the same sentence and HE is one?
That is not really what Deut 6:4 says. I know it has been translated that way but it is not correct, popular but not correct. I am going to insert a picture of Deut 6:4 of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months ago
Great collection of verses on the Angel of the LORD.
The “angel” of the LORD is also the YHWH who is written about here:
The heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe. Heb 1:2
The radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His nature, upholding all things by His powerful word. Heb 1:3
One to be worshipped b…Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months ago
Yes, the proper name of God and Lord in Deut 10:17 is YHWH.
You wrote:
Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Let’s see several other things in Hebrews 1 alone that God identified Jesus as:
- The heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe. Heb…
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months ago
This question “Any thing that you disagree with in that Berean?”
And this question: “Any thoughts?
These questions relate to two posts above here directed to you.
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months ago
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months ago
You wrote:
And it is obvious that the Father is God and Jesus is Lord.
Let’s start here:
In the OT, what is the proper name of the God and Lord in Deuteronomy 10:17?
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months ago
Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 months ago
You wrote:
It doesn’t say that God created the sun and moon on Day 4. They merely appeared in the firmament.
14And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to distinguish between the day and the night, and let them be signs to mark the seasons and days and years. 15And let them serve as lights in the expanse of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 months ago
Regarding what you wrote:
We are now living in Day Seven : God’s rest. And just as before, this day is not limited to twenty-four hours.
There have been many of God’s Sabbath rests in God’s Feasts alone. Obviously, we are not in the 7th day Sabbath rest.
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months, 1 week ago
@DesireTtuth
Feel free to examine what is written and give any thoughtful wisdom in response that the LORD gives you.
Blessings,
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months, 1 week ago
Furthermore, as a follow up question, I asked GROK this for your benefit as an SDA:
Is it possible that Ellen White would believe that Jesus is the Lord of lords in Deuteronomy 10:17?
GROK’s reply:
Yes, it is possible that Ellen White would believe Jesus is the “Lord of lords” described in Deuteronomy 10:17. As a co-founder of Seventh-day…
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months, 1 week ago
Thanks for your answer. This might be an interesting discussion. I asked GROK this question:
Is it possible that Jesus is the Lord of lords in Deuteronomy 10:17
Here is the answer it gave me:
Yes, from a Christian theological perspective, it is possible—and indeed a common interpretation—that Jesus is identified with the “Lord of lor…
Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 months, 1 week ago
You wrote:
Hebrews 3:11 (quoting Psalm 95:11):
“So I swore in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.”You do realize that verse has nothing to do with the seventh day rest, right? The rest mentioned in Hebrews 3:11 is about the particular generation of Israelites not being allowed into the promise land due to their dis…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 months, 1 week ago
You asked:
So you’re saying it was a spiritual day / light that also had evening and morning?
Good question, I think that the light of day one has to do with the Son of God who is “The Light of the World” entering the dimension of creation.
The term “day” was what God called the light. The darkness that was called night is d…[Read more]
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