Quote (t8 @ May 01 2011,19:27)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 02 2011,11:16)Quote (Lightenup @ May 01 2011,16:44)Mike,1 Cor 8:6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.For one thing, the 'all things' does not include the one…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 01 2011,19:27)Quote (Lightenup @ May 01 2011,18:23)You weren't a father before you conceived your son.  The moment after you conceived your son, you were a biological father.  See?  I started this thread so that you could get that and now we are on pg. 22 and you still don't get that.That IS why you started the thread, bu…[Read more]

Mike,Would you like to have a one on one conversation because I have answered your question and it is crazy to get your unfounded accusations. I don't want to jump from topic to topic with you. It would just be easier to have an ongoing conversation in one place about any topic. You ask one question, I answer it, then I ask you one question and…[Read more]

Istari,Quote By your logic, every MAN is a Father, and every Woman is a mother.Only if they have conceived an offspring, Istari. Many men and women have never conceived an offspring but once they have, they are a biological father and mother of an offspring whether or not the baby was miscarried or not. I don't know why you aren't getting this?…[Read more]

Mike,Quote His God has sure GIVEN him a lot of power and authority, eh?His Father and Him were the same in nature and both almighty, one as the Son and one as the Father. Both were Jehovah. Jehovah the Son, our God has given His followers power and authority too.The Father and the Son are the source of our power and authority over darkness. We…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Well, the Father wasn't a Father until He begot His Son. And before the Son, who was there in existence to “radiate His glory” to?Where is your scripture that says the Father was not a Father until He begat His Son? You were a father, a biological father before you begat/brought forth your son…for about nine months.Where in…[Read more]

Mike,1 Cor 8:6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.For one thing, the 'all things' does not include the one Lord, Jesus Christ otherwise He exists through Himself. Also, there is no mention of all things coming from…[Read more]

Mike,Thanks for bumping those points for me…much appreciated!Quote 1. So which of my statements do you claim to be untrue then?A. My son is a creation.B. My son was begotten.A. Yes, your son is a creation in the sense that your son is a creation of God as a part of creation. B. Yes, your son was begotten/born, i.e. your son was begotten as…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote The substance of Jesus came from within God originally, right?The substance of granite also came from within God originally, right?The substance of lint also came from within God originally, right?1. The substance of Jesus came from within God originally, right? Can you show me a verse that says that?2.The substance of granite…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 27 2011,22:01)Quote (Lightenup @ April 26 2011,20:17)'from ancient times' can mean 'from eternity'.Hi Kathi,There has been some discussion about this.  The fact that Jesus says he will be with us until the END of “aion” makes it hard to believe the word means “eternity” – because “eternity” has no END. (Matt 28:20)And…[Read more]

Hi Irene,Thank you! Keith opened up this topic with questions to me and I can see that we can't have a meaningful conversation with the mixture of those who do not believe in the deity of Christ also. Kathi

Quote (Baker @ April 27 2011,16:39)Kathy!   Rev 3:14 ¶ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;  Jesus is the beginning of Gods creation.Peace IreneHere Irene,Read this for understanding on that verse:The beginning of the creation of…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 27 2011,12:50)Quote (Lightenup @ April 27 2011,08:03)Kerwin,I think you mean 'deity.'  Deity, true deity,  all who have divine nature and are represented collectively as one deity and/or independently as individuals depending on the context, i.e. the Father and the Son collectively represent one deity and they e…[Read more]

If any one still has a question for me that I didn't answer, please give me one at a time, thanks!Kathi

Mike,You ask:Quote Since we know that Michael and Gabriel were brought forth at some time, we know that there was also a time when they didn't exist, right? What SCRIPTURE tells you that it was different with Jesus?Mike, for all creation, there was a time when those created out of new substance did not exist. Psalm 33:6By the word of the LORD…[Read more]

Thanks again for praying for the situation in the south. Our electricity is back up after 72 hours. I was talking with someone today that home and six horses and family were all fine but probably more than 100 of their trees felled and their neighbors on either side of them completely lost their home and there were a few deaths on their street.…[Read more]

Keith,I'm back…my electricity is now working again after 72 hours. I read through this thread and I think a one on one 'discussion' would be more effective, don't you? It gets very distracting with all those who deny the deity of Christ posting as well. I really don't want to debate, just discuss respectfully, one question at a time. That is…[Read more]

Hi Guys,Thanks for your prayers. We are now over 48 hours without electricity so here I am at the library again but don't have much time. I'm charging my phones and such Interesting time! Keep praying for those who lost everything.

Hi all,I have little time to respond on HN. I have no electricity at home and may not for a few more days, so I might stop in the library or somewhere but that is why I am not posting a response now. Sorry

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 27 2011,18:47)Hi All,This is my post from page nine – my first post on this thread:Quote There has never been a known occasion in the history of the world where someone who was brought forth into existence wasn't also subject to a time when he DIDN'T exist.  I exist now because I was brought forth.  But because I was b…[Read more]