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Lightenup replied to the topic Only Keith and Kathi may post here in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
Hi Keith,You mentioned me on Kerwin's 'kathy' thread (and I know it is spelled wrong but that is the way that Kerwin spelled it). Because I want to have a place for our conversations, uninterrupted, I am going to address what you say about me or to me…over here. I know you don't have time to have some formal discussion with me and that's f…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 15 years, 3 months ago
The spirit of man is called the innerman or innerperson.The son of man is called man.Wouldn't the Spirit of God be the innerperson of God?Wouldn't the Son of God be called God?If God Almighty is called Father, can He be called true Father apart from a true Son? If you don't believe in the true and proper Son, then you do not have the true and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 15 years, 3 months ago
I think the 'from the Father, through the Son' just shows that there are more than one person in the one all sufficient Deity. A Father and Son with their Spirit=the all sufficient Deity. Take one away and no one is made or saved.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Monotheism = Belief in Only One God in the forum View Points 15 years, 3 months ago
Mike,I am a Christian…a believer in the Father and the Son and their Holy Spirit. Let's leave it at that, ok. Thanks!Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Only Mike and Kathi may post here in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
Mike,Literal offsprings are not 'created.' Literal creations are the first of their kind. Offsprings come from their kind. So, if the term 'created' is used on an offspring, it is not the literal use of the word 'created' but a figurative use of the word 'created.' The term 'offspring' does not represent a kind, Mike.So, let me ask the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Only Mike and Kathi may post here in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
Good grief Charlie Brown is what comes to mind right now…it is too late for anything more than that

Lightenup replied to the topic LIKE button in the forum Feedback, Suggestions, & Features 15 years, 3 months ago
I agree…Wispring good post
Lightenup replied to the topic LIKE button in the forum Feedback, Suggestions, & Features 15 years, 3 months ago
I know Mike but I'm sure t8 could use more compensation for putting up with those that love you and want to wring your neck

Lightenup replied to the topic Only Mike and Kathi may post here in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
Mike,A passage about becoming partakers of the divine nature.2 Peter 1:11Simon Peter, a bond-servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ: 2Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord; 3seeing th…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Only Mike and Kathi may post here in the forum Debates 15 years, 3 months ago
Hi Mike,I graduated another son this weekend from high school and so I have had limited time on here. Thanks for your patience. I thought you didn't want long posts and then right away you write these long posts and I write long posts to respond to your long posts. We are a lost cause
you said:Quote First of all, I didn't set out to prove an…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic LIKE button in the forum Feedback, Suggestions, & Features 15 years, 3 months ago
t8,I think that if I were you, I would increase Mike's price to a three figure amount.
Think about it, it could be a real money maker for you.Lightenup replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2011,15:00)Quote (Lightenup @ May 22 2011,13:35)Only if you don't believe that the only begotten Son WASN'T a literal Son. I thought you said that you believe in a literal son of God, Mike.Kathi, I am a literal son of my father. My human nature began when I was brought forth as a human being – AND NOT BEFORE THAT. …[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2011,14:54)Quote (Lightenup @ May 22 2011,13:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2011,13:38)Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 21 2011,22:43)Excellent post Kathi. T8 holds the Morman belief that believers become divine in the next life. I've already explained to him that you do not become that which you partake in. I.e. if you partake in a…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ May 22 2011,13:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2011,10:36)Quote (Lightenup @ May 21 2011,22:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 21 2011,19:58)Quote (Lightenup @ May 20 2011,23:00)And that is not proven anywhere in scripture. The Spirit was also brought forth yet eternal.I'm sorry, when again was the Spirit begotten by God?Mike,It wasn't…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2011,10:41)Quote (Lightenup @ May 21 2011,22:02)Mike,If our human nature began to exist when Adam was created, the Son's divine nature began to exist when His Father's nature began to exist…No. If our human nature began to exist when Adam was brought forth by the One who brought him forth, then it stands to reason…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2011,13:38)Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 21 2011,22:43)Excellent post Kathi. T8 holds the Morman belief that believers become divine in the next life. I've already explained to him that you do not become that which you partake in. I.e. if you partake in a meal, that does not make you one!Hebrews 2:14 speaks of Jesus “partaking…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 22 2011,10:36)Quote (Lightenup @ May 21 2011,22:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 21 2011,19:58)Quote (Lightenup @ May 20 2011,23:00)And that is not proven anywhere in scripture. The Spirit was also brought forth yet eternal.I'm sorry, when again was the Spirit begotten by God?Mike,It wasn't 'begotten' but it was brought forth…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 15 years, 3 months ago
Ireen
No problem, you are not the only one that misspells my name but I can assure you that I haven't been spelling my name wrong. You probably got the wrong spelling from Pierre and Kerwin who misspell it sometimes also. Most of my posts this year have my name at the end
Blessings,KathiLightenup replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 21 2011,23:43)Quote (Lightenup @ May 22 2011,14:57)I believe that when one has as a divine nature as their original and essential nature, their nature always existed. Christians will only partake of divine nature, they will only have the fruits of that nature, not the incommunicable traits like the ability to be everywhere…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Question #2 for Keith in the forum The Hot Seat 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 21 2011,19:58)Quote (Lightenup @ May 20 2011,23:00)And that is not proven anywhere in scripture. The Spirit was also brought forth yet eternal.I'm sorry, when again was the Spirit begotten by God?Mike,It wasn't 'begotten' but it was brought forth and sent. Do you have trouble with that idea? You were talking about the…[Read more]
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