Hi Wispring,You ought to learn about the passive and active voice of Greek verbs. I believe that would really help you better understand what the original text was saying. When the verb is in the active voice then the subject actively did the action themself, when the verb is in the passive sense, the action is done to the subject. Here is…[Read more]

Mike,From the post at the top of this page…you said:Quote Kathi, EVERYTHING was “in Him” at one time. Paul said that ALL THINGS came FROM the Father. Are ALL THINGS from eternity just because they came FROM God?This is what Paul said: 1 Cor 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one…[Read more]

I think this is pretty good, maybe not perfect but I think that it gets the point across. It is a poem about the two natures of Christ, both God,as the Son and man. I hope it helps An Exposition of The MysteriesHe was laid in a manger and wrapped in swaddling clothes, as Man;and the watchers extolled Him with their praises, as God.He offered…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ May 29 2011,06:23)Is:2,None will ever be the Father and none will ever be the Son.Theres an order to things. First God the Father. then God the Son, then everybody else including the Angels. They will never be the Father or Son and neither will we.Good post Shimmer!No one can become God if they have been something else before…[Read more]

Istari,People have been teaching the eternal Son who was begotten before the ages since the early church. I am not teaching that which is new, just trying to say it in a way to give some more understanding. Also, the eternal Father has been taught and believed on long before.I have told you that the manner in which the offspring was within the…[Read more]

Mike,There is no 'the' in 1c. and 'beget' is not there either, nor is there an 'a' btw.The God beget a God. correct, imoThe God never beget a god. also correct.The God only beget one God who is His Son. also correct.

MikeIt may have went something like this:Just know that whenever God says something to you or when you see God, it is His Son who you are seeing and hearing and His Son is our God and Savior, Jesus Christ, even Jehovah as the Son of the unseen Jehovah. He you can see because the Godhead is both unseen and seen, heard and not heard because there…[Read more]

Paul,Don't spend the time…he continually adds words and interpretations that I have never said or suggested. For one, I have never used the term 'incubation' in my understanding in fact I have told him that and you can see that he uses the term even here. I appreciate your efforts…really do!Blessings,Kathi

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2011,21:48)Tempe, Az.Here is one for you to try Mike. It sounds like there are students of the word there. They believe in the inerrancy of the Bible and the Apostles' Creed. That is something you have in common with them. Service Times & DirectionsSunday Worship Services: 9:15am11:00amConnection Center Hours:…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2011,21:33)Quote (Lightenup @ May 28 2011,19:39)Jesus always had His divinity nature and with the incarnation, He also took on the nature of humanity.  He although glorified, still has these two natures even now and that is one reason He calls us 'brethren.'Oh I see now.  Jesus DOES actually HAVE human nature even t…[Read more]

Mike,The Father always existed, you know that right? The Son was in Him. You deny that the scriptures call Him 'our great God and Savior.'Titus 2:13 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,Romans 9:5 To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the…[Read more]

This is another ancient Syriac document entitled, “The Teaching of Addaeus, the Apostle.” Addaeus followed Jesus while He was alive and died a martyr's death, Abgar was a king who had written to Jesus asking for Him to come and heal him…Jesus wrote back and said that He would send one of His followers that could help him and the one sent was…[Read more]

Irene,Those people died because they would not worship the government's gods but were followers of Christ. You ought to read more about the martyrs. The Jews were the first persecutors…think Paul of Tarsus. Find out why Stephen was persecuted. Learn more about this. I will be putting another historical Syriac document that was officially…[Read more]

Mike,Find yourself a good teaching church and get in a small group. There you can discuss and learn. Keep trying till you find one that teaches from the Bible and where the members also bring their Bibles and follow along…that is a good sign Check out their class for potential new members, you should be able to discuss your opinions there.…[Read more]

Quote What is wrong with believing that there is one God the Father as we are meant to?You miss the fullness of God and you deny the deity of Christ.  You might as well be Jewish looking for a messiah that they thought was to have earthly parents, mother and father.  They didn't accept the possibility that God could be His Father because that w…[Read more]

t8,Jesus is also called YHWH AND has divine nature. Having divine nature exactly like the Father does mean that one is God. Partaking of it does not. Jesus is referred to as our great God and Savior, soooo…that was written by Peter, not satan. Satan would love for you to miss that. You might be interested in reading the ancient Syriac…[Read more]

Well,Mike, it is clear that scripture says to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit and so therefore I assume they did that because they would have followed the Lord's command. If it is written as baptizing in the name of Jesus then it was more likely because the writer was emphasizing the name that was new to them, like…[Read more]

Mike,Jesus always had His divinity nature and with the incarnation, He also took on the nature of humanity. He although glorified, still has these two natures even now and that is one reason He calls us 'brethren.' According to His humanity, He is our mediator/intercessor/High Priest/Brother/the Lamb…according to His divinity He is Judge,…[Read more]

Mike,Read what I wrote:Quote I tend to think that they did baptize in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. I think that Acts has it written that they baptized in Jesus' name, but I tend to think that they baptized in all three, and when Acts was written, it just emphasizes Jesus' name but doesn't mean that the other two names…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2011,13:23)Quote (Lightenup @ May 28 2011,10:29)So saying the 'Godhead of Israel' is…, is proper.Good point.  Now if only the words “El” and “Elohim” meant “Godhead”, you'd have a good start on this doctrine you're creating.mikeWell, they might imply Godhead. It is a plural word used with a singular pronoun. El…[Read more]