Mike,Quote K and K, there is never any indication that Jesus died in a different way than anyone else ever died. Anything you want to add to those facts is merely opinion and wishful thinking on your parts.There is every indication that Jesus had more to Him, since He existed as a being before He became man…true? This is not the case with any…[Read more]

Mike,Godhead is a singular noun, remember? The government is weak, not the government are weak.

Mike,Godhead is a singular noun, remember? The government is weak, not the government are weak.

Mike,Their oneness consists of more than one person.Also, if God was always Almighty, then He was never without His Son and their Spirit. Which way is God more mighty…with the Son or without the Son? With the Son, right? A no brainer. So, if God was always ALMIGHTY, then He always had the Son. He didn't go from 'mighty' to 'almighty' as…[Read more]

Istari,How do you know that the Son wasn't always IN the Father before He came out of the Father? I have proven that when the offspring is alive within the parent…the parent is the parent just as much then as after the birth. If someone sees a pregnant woman and asks her who the father is, there is a sure answer that someone is the father at…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 02 2011,14:33)The Father could not be, unless there is a Son.  its a depending role, and for there to be a Son there must be a Father, another depending role that has requierements.  The scriptures state that God isnt dependant on anything he is omnipotent. just my two cents on the matter Yes Dennison-son,It is e…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 02 2011,14:33)Quote (Istari @ June 01 2011,18:01)All this because you KNOW THAT A GOD CANNOT DIE – so you MUST SAY THAT JESUS DIDN'T DIE!!God is Spirit and the Spirit of Jesus did not die because he was the “Eternal life” that was with the Father in the beginning of all things. 1 John 1:1-3Eternal life cannot…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 02 2011,14:33)Quote (Istari @ June 01 2011,18:01)All this because you KNOW THAT A GOD CANNOT DIE – so you MUST SAY THAT JESUS DIDN'T DIE!!God is Spirit and the Spirit of Jesus did not die because he was the “Eternal life” that was with the Father in the beginning of all things. 1 John 1:1-3Eternal life cannot…[Read more]

I take it Istari, that you don't read the commentary of the experts to compare your understanding to. You would not be able to say this was me deluding myself. See, I read the scriptures with a teachable heart, then confirm my understanding with respected commentaries. You should try it.

Istari,I agree, God is the Father…BUT He is not God, the Father without the Son. The Son is perfect like the Father and is in the Father. Inseparable.

t8Obviously you didn't read the documents. I am not teaching a trinity doctrine. I am interested in Christianity. Please read the documents and discuss them, that is what this topic is about, thanks.

Quote (kerwin @ June 02 2011,03:45)Kathy,You wrote:Quote Hi Kerwin,God begets God who contains the Father God's nature.A god begets nothing.God cannot beget a god.Perfect cannot beget imperfect.andGod adopts sons who partake of His nature.Only one Son was truly begotten according to His essential nature.  That Son is unlike all others.You are…[Read more]

Istari,If one is acting as a emissary then that should be made clear in the context. There is nothing that says that in Gen 18 at all. Gen 19:24 Then Jehovah rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from Jehovah out of heaven,

Istari,Just because the scripture says that someone will be called by a certain name does not mean that they aren't that name beforehand…the people just don't realize it and therefore don't see Him as that yet.

Istari,I am glad that you realize that He is talking to the Father and not teaching the disciples. He is recognizing His Father as distinct from the idols and false gods of the land. Later on in the prayer to His Father, He shows the 'us' in their oneness.

t8,You really need to read these documents and tell me which one of us is more in line with what is being said. It can't be my own understanding if my understanding lines up with Peter's. If what you are understanding doesn't line up with the apostle's and disciples of those apostle's, then it is more likely that you are the one that is teaching…[Read more]

Quote “Worship Jehovah your God, and serve Him ONLY” is a pretty straightforward command. It shouldn't be to hard to follow it,Jehovah is two persons, one that was seen by Abraham and one that is unseen. Yes, Mike, we should worship Jehovah our God, the Son with the Father, both are called Jehovah.Jer 23:5“Behold, the days are coming,” dec…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 01 2011,15:57)Lu,um no, dont belittle my statements i clearly states that im stealing that point! !!!!!!!Oh Dennison-son,Now don't go ridin' on that long black train…that is where stealing will get you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyRZTAmcW7c

Quote (t8 @ June 01 2011,18:07)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ June 02 2011,07:04)Quote (Lightenup @ June 01 2011,22:05)Did it ever occur to you that the fact that the Son is 'of' God as well as the Holy Spirit is 'of God,' that may be part of what makes God Almighty.  If the Son and Holy Spirit were not 'of' God, then God might not be the 'Almighty'…[Read more]

Istari,What I said was simple and very common within the early church writers. God-the Father beget God-the Son. No one beget God-the Father, thus, God-the Father has no Father.Also, I don't believe in 'three persons' but I do believe in two persons and their Holy Spirit.