Hi Adam,

Did you ask this question:

If Jesus Never Called Himself God, How Did He Become One?

If you did, why would all it take to become God, to just call yourself God? Isn’t a better question to ask “When does God the Father call Jesus God?”

Answer…Heb 1:10-12 I know that you see that the Father identified Jesus as YHVH there. You have made…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

Can you see that the Father is identifying the Son as YHVH who laid the foundation of the earth and that the heavens are the works of His hands in Heb 1:10-12?

@Proclaimer

Regarding this:

@Proclaimer,

I think we are having a communication issue. Your post about plurals and singulars compare the word like “sheep” which is spelled the same way whether it is singular or plural, with the word “theos” and then go on to say how theos is plural in John 10:34. It is true that the root word of “theos”…[Read more]

@Proclaimer

You said:

Read my post again. I’ll state it in another way. You have both bought into this doctrine as being what the New Testament teaches.

You do not know what the trinity doctrine teaches for you to say this. The Holy Spirit is a third person in that doctrine. When have I said that?

Hi Adam,

You said:

I always like your positive attitude. Yes the NT certainly talks the divinity of Jesus.

Thank you. The identity of YHVH as applied to Jesus is certainly in the NT.

@Proclaimer,

You say:

Greek sentence construction affirms that if a noun doesn’t have a preceding article, (THE) it can be read as an adjective (a predicate adjective); and if such a noun does have a preceding article it should be considered a noun (a predicate nominative).

Please tell me what your source is for the above.

@Proclaimer,

I think we are having a communication issue. Your post about plurals and singulars compare the word like “sheep” which is spelled the same way whether it is singular or plural, with the word “theos” and then go on to say how theos is plural in John 10:34. It is true that the root word of “theos” is translated as plural in John 10 but…[Read more]

Hi Adam,

You said to Proclaimer:

Which verse you are talking about in fact LU was referring the whole chapter 1 of Hebrews here. You just quoted only verse 8. Please check the whole chapter on Jesus the Son and his role in God’s creation as assigned by the Hebrews writer. And receives worship like God. I am quoting the NT scriptures only.

I was w…[Read more]

Adam,

The NT was written to all people, including unbelieving Jews and Gentiles.

Have you read or listened to anything Rabbi Jonathan Bernis has written or spoke about?

You might want to look at his books and videos.

I hope it helps, LU

l

Adam,

The Bible for the Hebrews is the OT AND the NT. It is not just the OT. The story of the NT was written to the Jew first and then also to the Gentiles.

Blessings, LU

@Proclaimer,

You said:

Jesus is not the creator, God is.

Do you think that the Son was just a passive bystander during the creation process? That is not what the Father says of the Son. He identifies the Son as YHVH who laid out the foundation of the world and the heavens are the works of the Son’s hands. Heb 1.

Adam,

Are you aware that the Son is identified as YHVH in the NT? Heb 1.

Adam,

You asked Danny Dabbs this:

But why other NT writings deviated from this conviction of Jesus?

I believe that was referring the first commandment to love the LORD (YHVH) your God with all your heart, soul, and mind.

If you knew YHVH as our One God and our One Lord, you would understand that we are to love both our One God and our One Lord,…[Read more]

Gene,

If the Father of Jesus were your God, then you would agree on how He identifies the Son as YHVH who laid the foundation of the world and the heavens are the works of the Son’s hands.

But you don’t.

You have an imaginary father who doesn’t identify his son as YHVH.

@Proclaimer,

If I said this:

One father + one mother + one son = Fred, Wilma, and Bambam

and all are identified as the Flintstones,

would you understand that the Father is “Fred” and the mother is “Wilma” and the son is “BamBam?”

Maybe New Zealand didn’t have “the Flintstones” when you were young but in the States, it was a popular…[Read more]

Gene,

I agree with your last post. The important thing about what god you serve is that YHVH is the one name of the true God that should be served. I do believe that two persons are identified in the Bible by that name, as well as their Holy Spirit. The Father, the Son, and their Holy Spirit are together, YHVH.

The Father identifies the Son as…[Read more]

Hi Adam,

LU said:

I believe that the eternal creator God is YHVH which consists of the Father, Son, and their Spirit.

You said:

I am not surprised about your statement above. But Hebrew Bible does not support these ideas on God Yahweh. I know our NT had created problem for us to believe all these strange ideas. This is where I am not convinced…

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Hi Adam,

You said:

2 Cor 13:13

The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with all of you.
Here Jesus is included in the doxology along with God. There are many such scriptures which support the exalted role of Jesus along with God in the NT…

Exactly! Two powers of YHVH along with the power of…

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Proclaimer,

As is apparent in your last post, you have no idea about Greek plural nouns or singular nouns. Here is a picture of how the root word “theos” is changed in spelling to represent different uses of the word in the sentence. Please note that the singular form is not written the same as the plural form.

Adam,

You said:

In short, Judaism and Christianity are absolutely built upon the tenet that there are no other gods but Yahweh. But the ancient Israelites, from whom Christianity grew from, did not seem to share those beliefs. In fact, Yahweh himself did not seem to share them in passages such as Exodus 20:3 – “You shall have no other gods bef…

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