Jack,I don't believe I was inferring that He was slain before the foundation of the world.There are some translations that translate what you are thinking of which are more accurate, imo.Rev 13:8New Living Translation (©2007)And all the people who belong to this world worshiped the beast. They are the ones whose names were not written in the Book…[Read more]

Pierre,I can show you but I have found with some people, like yourself that you do better when you find it. Look up the word 'glory' and see what you find in John 17.

Pierre,What did you find out about unity during your search?A+B=CThis shows that two things can become a compound unity.Kathi

Pierre,Do you realize that the Son was in the beginning with the Father before the foundation of the world?Do you think they didn't discuss anything before the foundation of the world? Do you think that the Son had no say in anything that was planned for Him to accomplish?Do a study on what was foreordained or ordained before the foundation of…[Read more]

Mike,I think that it was both their decision and foreordained before the foundation of the world.

No one should be tiled for ignoring a question without putting the person in the hot seat thread first with the question and then PM'd with a notice of a possible tile for not answering and only after several attempts of asking the question. If a tile is given for totally ignoring a question, then it should be removed when the person responds to…[Read more]

Pierre,Where do you go to do a word search?

Pierre,Do a Bible word study on unity, ok. Do you know how to do that? If not, let me know.Kathi

Pierre,Do you not know how to find that scripture? Really? See if you can find it by yourself. If after you tried you cannot, let me know and I will help you.Hint: Do a word search on the word 'glory' in the NT and see if you can find your answer. I found it in just a minute or two just now. You need to learn how to find your own answers in…[Read more]

Pierre,The Son of God was always 100% the Son of God, He didn't become the Son of God and He never stopped being the Son of God when He also became the Son of David in the flesh. He was 100% the Son of God and 100% the Son of David since His conception in Mary. Before that He was 100% the Son of God. After the conception in Mary, He was 100%…[Read more]

Pierre,I don't see any scriptures in your comment about the unity. Why don't you study the subject of 'unity' in the Bible if you want to know more.Kathi

Pierre,Quote God did not send half a son but his total son I agree. I have never said otherwise.Quote Kathi your view is not scriptural and so not trueMy view has been backed with scripture. You don't seem to like all the scriptures.For instance, look at this thread full of scripture. You won't like the scriptures, I can almost guarantee it…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote Doesn't it? Let's see:Luke 8:30 NASAnd Jesus asked him, “What is your name ?” And he said, “Legion “; for many demons had entered him.Kathi, who in this scripture answered, “Legion”?One of the demons answered as the representative of the group. The name of the group was 'legion.'Quote When is America referred to as a “HE”?…[Read more]

Mike,This is the equation, both the Father and the Son are the same nature, no need to change it:1 divine father + 1 divine son = 1 divine unity

Quote (terraricca @ July 18 2011,19:13)Quote (terraricca @ July 19 2011,15:27)KathiQuote And that is why you cannot understand…you see three different types being added together.How about this equation:1 human father + 1 human mother + 1 son =1 human familyThat is 1+1+1=1You just need to know what you are adding together and what that makes when…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ July 18 2011,17:42)Quote his would be to make them one in the Godhead, as the three are one, which is not the design of the expression in the close of the verse: nor hisKathi! We are to worship The LORD our Heavenly Father, who is above all only….. Scriptures already given……in a previous post to you…. Three in the Godhead?…[Read more]

Mike,First you say:Quote Like I said, I've entertained your fantasy long enough for now. Let's continue on this “Legion” thing, but as far claiming over and over how we really have TWO Gods, give it up. No one is buying it.And then in the very next post only 5 minutes later, you are discussing the two Gods equation. You can stop discussing it…[Read more]

Mike (Pierre this might help you too),Let's use you as an example here, Mike. You have been a member of HN since Feb. 2010. You became a moderator last summer if I remember correctly. So, you might say that when you began your life as a moderator last summer on HN, you still were 100% a member of HN. Your membership on HN pre-existed your…[Read more]

Irene,you asked:Quote Where is it in Scripture that makes them both Jehovah God?Irene, read this post through carefully…Deut 10:17 “For the LORD your God is the God of gods AND the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.Now read this:Rev 7:14 “These will wage war against the Lamb,…[Read more]

More about the Father and Jesus being one…“I and the Father are one.”Gill's Exposition of the Entire BibleI and my Father are one. Not in person, for the Father must be a distinct person from the Son, and the Son a distinct person from the Father; and which is further manifest, from the use of the verb plural, “I and my Father”, “we are one”;…[Read more]