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Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 10 months ago
Pierre,Do a Bible word search for 'image' and 'nature' and see if you can further your Biblical understanding on this matter.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
Pierre,What are you doing? What is that supposed to tell me?
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 10 months ago
t8Quote It's the same argument as “Is Adam and Eve equal as adam.We know that both are fully adam.So if Jesus is theos in nature and we can partake in divine nature and will have a body like his, then yes we are the same.But in name, position, and authority, he is greater just as Adam was greater in position as the first born son. Adam and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 10 months ago
The presence or existence of the Son is why God is Almighty AND Father. The Son has always existed. The Father has always been Almighty.Without the Son, God would not be Almighty or Father, imo. The Father is Almighty only when the Son is with Him. The Son is always with Him, the Son is eternal too. Thus, the Father is always Almighty.
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
Pierre,you said:Quote ll are submit to God JehovahWho is Jehovah our God, Pierre. First you need to know who this is in order to build your foundation on a rock so that the storms can't blow it over.Here is your answer:”For Jehovah your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
MIke,The Church is a compound unity literally, male or female, it doesn't matter.Jehovah our God is a compound unity literally, male or female it doesn't matter.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
Mike,I am not playing your game where you keep changing the question. The question of yours that I quoted was sufficient to ask for me to prove what was necessary for Jehovah our God to be a compound unity and yet to be referred to with a singular personal pronoun.I proved that and I am done proving that. It is an established fact that the church…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
Mike,This should help you know that we are to worship Jehovah, our God:Deut 6:13 “You shall fear only Jehovah your God ; and you shall worship Him and swear by His name.Deut 26:10 'Now behold, I have brought the first of the produce of the ground which You, O Jehovah have given me.' And you shall set it down before Jehovah your God, and worship…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 20 2011,21:30)Quote (Lightenup @ July 20 2011,16:57)PS…we made it to page 200!! I don't know if that is good or bad. Seems like this should be settled long ago and really not been an issue with such a wonderful Jesus that we have.Nobody is doubting how wonderful Jesus is, Kathi. But you are right, this really should ha…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
Mike,you said this:Quote Now if we factor in the FACT that two or more persons are NEVER referred to with a SINGULAR, PERSONAL PRONOUN, then MY understanding must be the correct one.from here, second post from the bottom:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….st=1960This is another statement that I have proven wrong with the passage in my last…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
Mike,You said this:Quote And I'm telling you that a unity of PERSONS is never identified by a SINGULAR PERSONAL pronoun.from here, sixth post down: https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….st=1930Can you admit that I proved you wrong with the following passage according to your statement which I quoted? Yes or no?23 For the husband is the head of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 10 months ago
Pierre, Did you not say that we are all gods?Is Jesus and you equal as god?Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 10 months ago
Mike,you said:Quote So, where is YOUR evidence that CLEARLY shows each of us from the words of the scriptures themselves that the Son of God was an exception to the rules of begetting?The Son has the exact representation of the Father's nature and the Father is eternal. Human understanding does not offer a default model for one with the nature of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 10 months ago
Mike I wrote that to Pierre because he didn't attempt to change the verse…comma or word order like you have in mind doing.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
Mike,Here is another example of a compound unity being referred to with a singular personal pronoun as a 'she and a 'her.'Isaiah 40:2″Speak kindly to Jerusalem; And call out to her, that her warfare has ended, That her iniquity has been removed, That she has received of the LORD'S hand Double for all her sins.”Jerusalem here is the gospel church…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 10 months ago
Irene,How do you know that the Son wasn't eternally within the Father and when the Father wanted to bring Him forth, He then beget Him? Don't you think that the Father always was all sufficient for every good work? Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 10 months ago
Pierre,I quoted your words exactly as you wrote them. Are you now saying that you believe that Moses was just a shadow of the 'theos' that Jesus was?
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
Pierre,What does that have to do with the compound unity being expressed in singular personal pronouns?Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 10 months ago
So Pierre,you said on this page in your above two posts:Quote just remember we are all gods Quote to be honest I have always believed that Christ is a god but just as Moses was to his brother and to pharaohChrist will be forever the intermediary between all of creation and his father Can you answer these questions:Let me ask you…did you and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 10 months ago
Pierre,You asked the same question on the worship thread. I know you saw the answer but I will link to it here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….st=1970Kathi
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