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Lightenup replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago
Mike,Quote Kathi, we are also said to be ONE with the Father.Where?
Lightenup replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago
Mike,you said:Quote Numbers 3:45“Take the Levites in place of all the firstborn of Israel….Did the NATION of Israel give birth? Or does this refer to the firstborns who are MEMBERS OF the Nation of Israel?“Take the Levites instead of all the firstborn among the sons of Israel and the cattle of the Levites. And the Levites shall be Mine; I am t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago
Mike,You said:Quote Jesus is called the Lord of lords AND King of kings, right? Nebuchadnezzar is called the King of kings, right? So if we use the same formula that you use in Deut 10:17, we can come to the conclusion that Jesus is really a “compound unity” of Jesus AND Nebuchadnezzar.Because you say Jehovah is made up of the God of gods AND…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago
Mike,Quote But I have a better idea. Let's see who JESUS HIMSELF says to worship:Matthew 4:10Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’Read this:‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’You need to get to know who Jehovah, your God is Mike.Deut 10:17 “For the LORD your God…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
Pierre,If you don't know those elementary answers, you need to study your Bible, not ask someone that you automatically insult every one of their responses. I am not interested in entertaining you. I'm going to pass…not worth my time, sorry. I would rather spend my time helping someone.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago
Mike,Quote That passage tells of the firstborn OF God's creation, and never says he actually CREATED a single thing.Actually the verse is translated as 'firstborn of all creation' or 'firstborn over all creation.'Look at this passage in the OT:Numbers 8:16 for they are wholly given to Me from among the sons of Israel. I have taken them for Myself…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago
Keith…good post all the way!Blessings, Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
So, Pierre,You just make these statements that tell me some insult but you don't point out anything specific about my post. Do you know who Elihu is?
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
Pierre,What do you mean about mixing ingredients. You can see that it says He has become a high priest forever.The double nature shows a duality of roles:6who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 21 2011,20:59)Quote (terraricca @ July 21 2011,16:59)but when God is called Lord of Lords ,this as to be seen he is the Lord over whatever his, his creation and so includes the Lord Christ,Hmmmm……………I wonder if that's why our Lord of lords calls the God of gods “my God”? Perhaps that's also why he says that our…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
20“My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one: 23I i…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour! in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 19 2011,20:19)Quote (Lightenup @ July 19 2011,13:00)Mike,I think that it was both their decision and foreordained before the foundation of the world.Is there a scripture where JESUS' will is the one done in heaven or on earth? Is there a scripture where their “combined will” is done?Or are there only scriptures where the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic And God called their name adam in the forum Debates 14 years, 10 months ago
Mike,There are angels in heaven and we are not to worship angels. The firstborn over all creation created them. Only the Father and the Son receive worship.If you want verses to prove that there are angels in heaven, do a word search.If you want to see that the firstborn over all creation created all things in heaven, go to Col 1.If you want to…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 10 months ago
Well, Pierre, I can't answer a question if I don't understand what is being asked. Maybe someone else that claims to understand your posts can answer you.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
Pierre,He was not created. You miss truth there. The God of gods created the world through the Lord of lords, creation belongs to both of them, just like salvation belongs to both of them. Both of them form a compound unity named Jehovah, our God.You say it is not scriptural but you do not defend that with apologetics, so it is only the op…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Kathy What Do You Mean By Preexisting Sonship? in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years, 10 months ago
Pierre,Can you narrow your question? I don't know what you are getting at.Kathi
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
Irene,See the date on which I showed you the Deuteronomy 10:17 verse in the quote in the above post? July 18th was just 3 days ago and until Pierre showed you the Deuteronomy 10:17 verse, you showed that you didn't have a clue about it. I'm sure that is frustrating for you and realize that your lack of memory is something that we all have to…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ July 18 2011,17:28)Irene,you asked:Quote Where is it in Scripture that makes them both Jehovah God?Irene, read this post through carefully…Deut 10:17“For the LORD your God is the God of gods AND the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.Now read this:Rev 7:14…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Ancient Syriac Documents in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 14 years, 10 months ago
Pierre,I don't know what Paul would say, but I know that you don't want to believe what I say so you need to find some things out for yourself. You are a fisherman, right? When someone wants a fish from you, over and over, do you just hand them a fish or teach them to fish for themselves?Try fishing with a word search…bait your hook and throw…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Worship God the Father only? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 10 months ago
Pierre,you said:Quote Christ is never called the God of gods is he ?I haven't exhausted the study of that, but as far as I can tell, the Son is not referred to as the God of gods.Quote but God is called LORD OF LORDSJehovah our God is called Lord of lords but I don't believe the Father alone is. Quote AND SO IS CHRISTYes, the only begotten Son,…[Read more]
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